Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
excellent condition.
This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
have enough power.
I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
apologize for that.

--
Steve

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

That sounds like a reasonable price.

The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the 4
banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.

A TJ will take any ramp or corner easily at the posted speed limit for
them.

They do not roll over any easier than your old truck, if anything, they
are more square shaped which makes them more stable than your truck.

A sports car they aren't...

Most roll overs I hear about and see and have done, (twice over on the
side for me) were at really low speeds with minimal damage or in some
cases a bad crunch, but minor injuries.

The gas mileage on the 4 isn't great, about the same as the 6. 16 to 20
mpg depending on how heavy your foot is. It comes down to pushing a
brick through the air, the smaller engine works harder so burns gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
> Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
> that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
> that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
> it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
> typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
> clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
> added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
> It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
> says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
> excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
> you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
> I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
> to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
> top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
> commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
> have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
> would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
> climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
> questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
> good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
> Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
> be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
> apologize for that.
>
> --
> Steve

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

That sounds like a reasonable price.

The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the 4
banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.

A TJ will take any ramp or corner easily at the posted speed limit for
them.

They do not roll over any easier than your old truck, if anything, they
are more square shaped which makes them more stable than your truck.

A sports car they aren't...

Most roll overs I hear about and see and have done, (twice over on the
side for me) were at really low speeds with minimal damage or in some
cases a bad crunch, but minor injuries.

The gas mileage on the 4 isn't great, about the same as the 6. 16 to 20
mpg depending on how heavy your foot is. It comes down to pushing a
brick through the air, the smaller engine works harder so burns gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
> Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
> that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
> that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
> it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
> typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
> clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
> added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
> It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
> says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
> excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
> you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
> I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
> to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
> top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
> commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
> have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
> would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
> climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
> questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
> good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
> Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
> be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
> apologize for that.
>
> --
> Steve

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

That sounds like a reasonable price.

The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the 4
banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.

A TJ will take any ramp or corner easily at the posted speed limit for
them.

They do not roll over any easier than your old truck, if anything, they
are more square shaped which makes them more stable than your truck.

A sports car they aren't...

Most roll overs I hear about and see and have done, (twice over on the
side for me) were at really low speeds with minimal damage or in some
cases a bad crunch, but minor injuries.

The gas mileage on the 4 isn't great, about the same as the 6. 16 to 20
mpg depending on how heavy your foot is. It comes down to pushing a
brick through the air, the smaller engine works harder so burns gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
> Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
> that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
> that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
> it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
> typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
> clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
> added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
> It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
> says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
> excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
> you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
> I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
> to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
> top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
> commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
> have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
> would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
> climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
> questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
> good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
> Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
> be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
> apologize for that.
>
> --
> Steve

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

Wow, that is a low mileage '99. I have 82K on mine. Sounds like a deal
to me. Only drawback to the SE 4cyl is highway driving IMO... if you
don't spend a lot of time on the Interstates, it's perfectly fine. As
far as cold and the soft top, you should be fine... heater works well
in my '99 anyway. And sure, a Jeep will roll sooner than a normal car
or truck will, but if you drive it in a civilized and sensible manner,
it's perfectly safe. I routinely take corners at +5 or maybe even +10
(depending on the road) of the suggested posted speed.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

Wow, that is a low mileage '99. I have 82K on mine. Sounds like a deal
to me. Only drawback to the SE 4cyl is highway driving IMO... if you
don't spend a lot of time on the Interstates, it's perfectly fine. As
far as cold and the soft top, you should be fine... heater works well
in my '99 anyway. And sure, a Jeep will roll sooner than a normal car
or truck will, but if you drive it in a civilized and sensible manner,
it's perfectly safe. I routinely take corners at +5 or maybe even +10
(depending on the road) of the suggested posted speed.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

Wow, that is a low mileage '99. I have 82K on mine. Sounds like a deal
to me. Only drawback to the SE 4cyl is highway driving IMO... if you
don't spend a lot of time on the Interstates, it's perfectly fine. As
far as cold and the soft top, you should be fine... heater works well
in my '99 anyway. And sure, a Jeep will roll sooner than a normal car
or truck will, but if you drive it in a civilized and sensible manner,
it's perfectly safe. I routinely take corners at +5 or maybe even +10
(depending on the road) of the suggested posted speed.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

>After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy"

get a new girlfriend.

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

>After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy"

get a new girlfriend.

Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
 

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
<scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:

>After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy"

get a new girlfriend.