Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

No doubt, the fan probably made the biggest difference. The exhaust
may have helped too. However, I was addressing the t/body. It will not
change fuel mileage, or mixture. For that matter, nothing you did will
affect mixture, since the PCM will adjust to get the O2 content of the
exhaust where it wants it.


On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:

>These are average figures, but I went from about 20 mpg in stock
>configuration to about 25 mpg after the bored out throttle body, cat back
>exhaust and electric fan. This was with the 2.5 liter engine. I believe
>that in the stock configuration, the vehicle runs a little rich in order to
>keep NOx emissions down. Most modern vehicles doo. According to spark plug
>appearance, the vehicle isn't running too lean now, but the gas mileage is
>improved, according to measurements made over 7 years. In my experience I
>couldn't measure or evaluate the alleged performance increase I was supposed
>to get, but the mileage increase is very real. The fact that you might
>believe this to be impossible doesn't change the figures I have written down
>in the notebook I keep in the vehicle.
>
>One thing about the fan. The four cylinder engine doesn't need as much
>cooling air as the six, so I can drive down a highway or even a gravel road
>and it will never come on. Usually, the fan only comes on in the summer in
>city driving. That is why it represents a fuel savings, because it doesn't
>have to come on and therefore use engine power. Your six cylinder
>experience here may be different.
>
>Now if you put in at least a cat-back exhaust, which sooner or later you
>will have to replace because of rocks, rust, whatever, well it seems to have
>helped the Jeep and the Suburban I have too. And you can't argue with the
>cool sound it makes.
>
>Earle
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
>news:8nrto2du7voaqvggtaa31087ta9bn971ou@4ax.com.. .
>> A bored out t/body will do nothing for fuel economy. It won't help
>> performance either, other than at wide open throttle.
>>
>> It goes without saying that if you're "enjoying" your "performance
>> increase" from a larger t/body, you're not gonna get any fuel mileage.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:29:51 -0600, "TomP" <tompeters@localnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Could you elaborate on the bored out throttle body? I have a 04 with 4.0
>and
>> >am looking for ways to increse the milege. Just finished the air cleaner,
>> >electric fan, and exhaust ( cat back ) upgrades, but havent gone anywhere
>to
>> >check milege. Taking a trip next week to see.
>> >Thanks Tom
>> >
>> >"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> >news:458e1bf6$0$3526$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> Mine takes about 1.5 seconds to start every time, and has since new.
>It
>> >> is
>> >> a 95. Yours sounds like a different problem though. There is a check
>> >> valve
>> >> somewhere in the fuel system that can leak down. Buy or rent a
>pressure
>> >> gauge to put on the fuel rail and see if this is it.
>> >>
>> >> What do you mean "doesnt get great gas mileage"? If you got the big
>> >> engine,
>> >> of course you're not going to get great mileage. If you got the small
>> >> engine, you won't either. Mine has the small engine and gets about 25
>mpg
>> >> after a bored out throttle body, high performance exhaust and electric
>> >> cooling fan. Before all those upgrades it got about 20. If you plan
>to
>> >> take it off road, you can wait on the exhaust upgrade, until after you
>> >> smash
>> >> your current muffler on a rock, heh, heh.
>> >>
>> >> You of course gave it a complete ignition tune up, air cleaner, etc.?
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to the club.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "magicman" <magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> i have a newly purchased 99 wrangler and it will not start on first
>try
>> >>> but turn the key off and she fires right up on the second try any
>> >>> ideas? thanks also it doesnt get great gas mileage ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> magicman
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

No doubt, the fan probably made the biggest difference. The exhaust
may have helped too. However, I was addressing the t/body. It will not
change fuel mileage, or mixture. For that matter, nothing you did will
affect mixture, since the PCM will adjust to get the O2 content of the
exhaust where it wants it.


On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:

>These are average figures, but I went from about 20 mpg in stock
>configuration to about 25 mpg after the bored out throttle body, cat back
>exhaust and electric fan. This was with the 2.5 liter engine. I believe
>that in the stock configuration, the vehicle runs a little rich in order to
>keep NOx emissions down. Most modern vehicles doo. According to spark plug
>appearance, the vehicle isn't running too lean now, but the gas mileage is
>improved, according to measurements made over 7 years. In my experience I
>couldn't measure or evaluate the alleged performance increase I was supposed
>to get, but the mileage increase is very real. The fact that you might
>believe this to be impossible doesn't change the figures I have written down
>in the notebook I keep in the vehicle.
>
>One thing about the fan. The four cylinder engine doesn't need as much
>cooling air as the six, so I can drive down a highway or even a gravel road
>and it will never come on. Usually, the fan only comes on in the summer in
>city driving. That is why it represents a fuel savings, because it doesn't
>have to come on and therefore use engine power. Your six cylinder
>experience here may be different.
>
>Now if you put in at least a cat-back exhaust, which sooner or later you
>will have to replace because of rocks, rust, whatever, well it seems to have
>helped the Jeep and the Suburban I have too. And you can't argue with the
>cool sound it makes.
>
>Earle
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
>news:8nrto2du7voaqvggtaa31087ta9bn971ou@4ax.com.. .
>> A bored out t/body will do nothing for fuel economy. It won't help
>> performance either, other than at wide open throttle.
>>
>> It goes without saying that if you're "enjoying" your "performance
>> increase" from a larger t/body, you're not gonna get any fuel mileage.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:29:51 -0600, "TomP" <tompeters@localnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Could you elaborate on the bored out throttle body? I have a 04 with 4.0
>and
>> >am looking for ways to increse the milege. Just finished the air cleaner,
>> >electric fan, and exhaust ( cat back ) upgrades, but havent gone anywhere
>to
>> >check milege. Taking a trip next week to see.
>> >Thanks Tom
>> >
>> >"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> >news:458e1bf6$0$3526$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> Mine takes about 1.5 seconds to start every time, and has since new.
>It
>> >> is
>> >> a 95. Yours sounds like a different problem though. There is a check
>> >> valve
>> >> somewhere in the fuel system that can leak down. Buy or rent a
>pressure
>> >> gauge to put on the fuel rail and see if this is it.
>> >>
>> >> What do you mean "doesnt get great gas mileage"? If you got the big
>> >> engine,
>> >> of course you're not going to get great mileage. If you got the small
>> >> engine, you won't either. Mine has the small engine and gets about 25
>mpg
>> >> after a bored out throttle body, high performance exhaust and electric
>> >> cooling fan. Before all those upgrades it got about 20. If you plan
>to
>> >> take it off road, you can wait on the exhaust upgrade, until after you
>> >> smash
>> >> your current muffler on a rock, heh, heh.
>> >>
>> >> You of course gave it a complete ignition tune up, air cleaner, etc.?
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to the club.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "magicman" <magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> i have a newly purchased 99 wrangler and it will not start on first
>try
>> >>> but turn the key off and she fires right up on the second try any
>> >>> ideas? thanks also it doesnt get great gas mileage ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> magicman
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

Under load conditions, the PCM will shut down the fuel to adjust to the
restrictive stock intake and exhaust. That is what you are saying. Maybe
I'm getting more mileage, which we know for sure, because I am actually
getting more power. What you're doing is invoking theory to try to prove
that the throttle body is useless, but automotive design is not 100% theory.
Most of it is testing, testing and more testing.

http://www.applemacintoshart.com/fox/grapes.htm

Earle

"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:njtuo2pl3g3o6p9vv5e27m7vikl5auc117@4ax.com...
> No doubt, the fan probably made the biggest difference. The exhaust
> may have helped too. However, I was addressing the t/body. It will not
> change fuel mileage, or mixture. For that matter, nothing you did will
> affect mixture, since the PCM will adjust to get the O2 content of the
> exhaust where it wants it.
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >These are average figures, but I went from about 20 mpg in stock
> >configuration to about 25 mpg after the bored out throttle body, cat back
> >exhaust and electric fan. This was with the 2.5 liter engine. I believe
> >that in the stock configuration, the vehicle runs a little rich in order
to
> >keep NOx emissions down. Most modern vehicles doo. According to spark
plug
> >appearance, the vehicle isn't running too lean now, but the gas mileage
is
> >improved, according to measurements made over 7 years. In my experience
I
> >couldn't measure or evaluate the alleged performance increase I was
supposed
> >to get, but the mileage increase is very real. The fact that you might
> >believe this to be impossible doesn't change the figures I have written
down
> >in the notebook I keep in the vehicle.
> >
> >One thing about the fan. The four cylinder engine doesn't need as much
> >cooling air as the six, so I can drive down a highway or even a gravel
road
> >and it will never come on. Usually, the fan only comes on in the summer
in
> >city driving. That is why it represents a fuel savings, because it
doesn't
> >have to come on and therefore use engine power. Your six cylinder
> >experience here may be different.
> >
> >Now if you put in at least a cat-back exhaust, which sooner or later you
> >will have to replace because of rocks, rust, whatever, well it seems to
have
> >helped the Jeep and the Suburban I have too. And you can't argue with
the
> >cool sound it makes.
> >
> >Earle
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
> >news:8nrto2du7voaqvggtaa31087ta9bn971ou@4ax.com.. .
> >> A bored out t/body will do nothing for fuel economy. It won't help
> >> performance either, other than at wide open throttle.
> >>
> >> It goes without saying that if you're "enjoying" your "performance
> >> increase" from a larger t/body, you're not gonna get any fuel mileage.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:29:51 -0600, "TomP" <tompeters@localnet.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Could you elaborate on the bored out throttle body? I have a 04 with
4.0
> >and
> >> >am looking for ways to increse the milege. Just finished the air
cleaner,
> >> >electric fan, and exhaust ( cat back ) upgrades, but havent gone
anywhere
> >to
> >> >check milege. Taking a trip next week to see.
> >> >Thanks Tom
> >> >
> >> >"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:458e1bf6$0$3526$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> Mine takes about 1.5 seconds to start every time, and has since new.
> >It
> >> >> is
> >> >> a 95. Yours sounds like a different problem though. There is a
check
> >> >> valve
> >> >> somewhere in the fuel system that can leak down. Buy or rent a
> >pressure
> >> >> gauge to put on the fuel rail and see if this is it.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean "doesnt get great gas mileage"? If you got the big
> >> >> engine,
> >> >> of course you're not going to get great mileage. If you got the
small
> >> >> engine, you won't either. Mine has the small engine and gets about
25
> >mpg
> >> >> after a bored out throttle body, high performance exhaust and
electric
> >> >> cooling fan. Before all those upgrades it got about 20. If you
plan
> >to
> >> >> take it off road, you can wait on the exhaust upgrade, until after
you
> >> >> smash
> >> >> your current muffler on a rock, heh, heh.
> >> >>
> >> >> You of course gave it a complete ignition tune up, air cleaner,
etc.?
> >> >>
> >> >> Welcome to the club.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "magicman" <magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> i have a newly purchased 99 wrangler and it will not start on first
> >try
> >> >>> but turn the key off and she fires right up on the second try any
> >> >>> ideas? thanks also it doesnt get great gas mileage ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> magicman
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

Under load conditions, the PCM will shut down the fuel to adjust to the
restrictive stock intake and exhaust. That is what you are saying. Maybe
I'm getting more mileage, which we know for sure, because I am actually
getting more power. What you're doing is invoking theory to try to prove
that the throttle body is useless, but automotive design is not 100% theory.
Most of it is testing, testing and more testing.

http://www.applemacintoshart.com/fox/grapes.htm

Earle

"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:njtuo2pl3g3o6p9vv5e27m7vikl5auc117@4ax.com...
> No doubt, the fan probably made the biggest difference. The exhaust
> may have helped too. However, I was addressing the t/body. It will not
> change fuel mileage, or mixture. For that matter, nothing you did will
> affect mixture, since the PCM will adjust to get the O2 content of the
> exhaust where it wants it.
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >These are average figures, but I went from about 20 mpg in stock
> >configuration to about 25 mpg after the bored out throttle body, cat back
> >exhaust and electric fan. This was with the 2.5 liter engine. I believe
> >that in the stock configuration, the vehicle runs a little rich in order
to
> >keep NOx emissions down. Most modern vehicles doo. According to spark
plug
> >appearance, the vehicle isn't running too lean now, but the gas mileage
is
> >improved, according to measurements made over 7 years. In my experience
I
> >couldn't measure or evaluate the alleged performance increase I was
supposed
> >to get, but the mileage increase is very real. The fact that you might
> >believe this to be impossible doesn't change the figures I have written
down
> >in the notebook I keep in the vehicle.
> >
> >One thing about the fan. The four cylinder engine doesn't need as much
> >cooling air as the six, so I can drive down a highway or even a gravel
road
> >and it will never come on. Usually, the fan only comes on in the summer
in
> >city driving. That is why it represents a fuel savings, because it
doesn't
> >have to come on and therefore use engine power. Your six cylinder
> >experience here may be different.
> >
> >Now if you put in at least a cat-back exhaust, which sooner or later you
> >will have to replace because of rocks, rust, whatever, well it seems to
have
> >helped the Jeep and the Suburban I have too. And you can't argue with
the
> >cool sound it makes.
> >
> >Earle
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
> >news:8nrto2du7voaqvggtaa31087ta9bn971ou@4ax.com.. .
> >> A bored out t/body will do nothing for fuel economy. It won't help
> >> performance either, other than at wide open throttle.
> >>
> >> It goes without saying that if you're "enjoying" your "performance
> >> increase" from a larger t/body, you're not gonna get any fuel mileage.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:29:51 -0600, "TomP" <tompeters@localnet.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Could you elaborate on the bored out throttle body? I have a 04 with
4.0
> >and
> >> >am looking for ways to increse the milege. Just finished the air
cleaner,
> >> >electric fan, and exhaust ( cat back ) upgrades, but havent gone
anywhere
> >to
> >> >check milege. Taking a trip next week to see.
> >> >Thanks Tom
> >> >
> >> >"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:458e1bf6$0$3526$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> Mine takes about 1.5 seconds to start every time, and has since new.
> >It
> >> >> is
> >> >> a 95. Yours sounds like a different problem though. There is a
check
> >> >> valve
> >> >> somewhere in the fuel system that can leak down. Buy or rent a
> >pressure
> >> >> gauge to put on the fuel rail and see if this is it.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean "doesnt get great gas mileage"? If you got the big
> >> >> engine,
> >> >> of course you're not going to get great mileage. If you got the
small
> >> >> engine, you won't either. Mine has the small engine and gets about
25
> >mpg
> >> >> after a bored out throttle body, high performance exhaust and
electric
> >> >> cooling fan. Before all those upgrades it got about 20. If you
plan
> >to
> >> >> take it off road, you can wait on the exhaust upgrade, until after
you
> >> >> smash
> >> >> your current muffler on a rock, heh, heh.
> >> >>
> >> >> You of course gave it a complete ignition tune up, air cleaner,
etc.?
> >> >>
> >> >> Welcome to the club.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "magicman" <magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> i have a newly purchased 99 wrangler and it will not start on first
> >try
> >> >>> but turn the key off and she fires right up on the second try any
> >> >>> ideas? thanks also it doesnt get great gas mileage ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> magicman
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

Under load conditions, the PCM will shut down the fuel to adjust to the
restrictive stock intake and exhaust. That is what you are saying. Maybe
I'm getting more mileage, which we know for sure, because I am actually
getting more power. What you're doing is invoking theory to try to prove
that the throttle body is useless, but automotive design is not 100% theory.
Most of it is testing, testing and more testing.

http://www.applemacintoshart.com/fox/grapes.htm

Earle

"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:njtuo2pl3g3o6p9vv5e27m7vikl5auc117@4ax.com...
> No doubt, the fan probably made the biggest difference. The exhaust
> may have helped too. However, I was addressing the t/body. It will not
> change fuel mileage, or mixture. For that matter, nothing you did will
> affect mixture, since the PCM will adjust to get the O2 content of the
> exhaust where it wants it.
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >These are average figures, but I went from about 20 mpg in stock
> >configuration to about 25 mpg after the bored out throttle body, cat back
> >exhaust and electric fan. This was with the 2.5 liter engine. I believe
> >that in the stock configuration, the vehicle runs a little rich in order
to
> >keep NOx emissions down. Most modern vehicles doo. According to spark
plug
> >appearance, the vehicle isn't running too lean now, but the gas mileage
is
> >improved, according to measurements made over 7 years. In my experience
I
> >couldn't measure or evaluate the alleged performance increase I was
supposed
> >to get, but the mileage increase is very real. The fact that you might
> >believe this to be impossible doesn't change the figures I have written
down
> >in the notebook I keep in the vehicle.
> >
> >One thing about the fan. The four cylinder engine doesn't need as much
> >cooling air as the six, so I can drive down a highway or even a gravel
road
> >and it will never come on. Usually, the fan only comes on in the summer
in
> >city driving. That is why it represents a fuel savings, because it
doesn't
> >have to come on and therefore use engine power. Your six cylinder
> >experience here may be different.
> >
> >Now if you put in at least a cat-back exhaust, which sooner or later you
> >will have to replace because of rocks, rust, whatever, well it seems to
have
> >helped the Jeep and the Suburban I have too. And you can't argue with
the
> >cool sound it makes.
> >
> >Earle
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
> >news:8nrto2du7voaqvggtaa31087ta9bn971ou@4ax.com.. .
> >> A bored out t/body will do nothing for fuel economy. It won't help
> >> performance either, other than at wide open throttle.
> >>
> >> It goes without saying that if you're "enjoying" your "performance
> >> increase" from a larger t/body, you're not gonna get any fuel mileage.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:29:51 -0600, "TomP" <tompeters@localnet.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Could you elaborate on the bored out throttle body? I have a 04 with
4.0
> >and
> >> >am looking for ways to increse the milege. Just finished the air
cleaner,
> >> >electric fan, and exhaust ( cat back ) upgrades, but havent gone
anywhere
> >to
> >> >check milege. Taking a trip next week to see.
> >> >Thanks Tom
> >> >
> >> >"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:458e1bf6$0$3526$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> Mine takes about 1.5 seconds to start every time, and has since new.
> >It
> >> >> is
> >> >> a 95. Yours sounds like a different problem though. There is a
check
> >> >> valve
> >> >> somewhere in the fuel system that can leak down. Buy or rent a
> >pressure
> >> >> gauge to put on the fuel rail and see if this is it.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean "doesnt get great gas mileage"? If you got the big
> >> >> engine,
> >> >> of course you're not going to get great mileage. If you got the
small
> >> >> engine, you won't either. Mine has the small engine and gets about
25
> >mpg
> >> >> after a bored out throttle body, high performance exhaust and
electric
> >> >> cooling fan. Before all those upgrades it got about 20. If you
plan
> >to
> >> >> take it off road, you can wait on the exhaust upgrade, until after
you
> >> >> smash
> >> >> your current muffler on a rock, heh, heh.
> >> >>
> >> >> You of course gave it a complete ignition tune up, air cleaner,
etc.?
> >> >>
> >> >> Welcome to the club.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "magicman" <magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:magicman.2jb0r9@news.autobanter.com...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> i have a newly purchased 99 wrangler and it will not start on first
> >try
> >> >>> but turn the key off and she fires right up on the second try any
> >> >>> ideas? thanks also it doesnt get great gas mileage ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> magicman
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

97tjMike Wrote:
> i had a similar problem on my 97. If it's the fuel pressure system
> (which it sounds like) shoot me a message and I can walk you thru the
> steps to fixing it. A good way to test if its a fuel problem is t
> turn
> the key to the 'on' position a couple of times and not start it. After
> 3 or 4 times see if it starts easy. If it does, that means that you
> have an issue with maintaining fuel pressure.
>
> And mpg....i get 15.5....it ain't a hybrid



i can turn the key onece w/o starting it and it cranks up right up o
the second key turn ?? th


--
magicman

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

97tjMike Wrote:
> i had a similar problem on my 97. If it's the fuel pressure system
> (which it sounds like) shoot me a message and I can walk you thru the
> steps to fixing it. A good way to test if its a fuel problem is t
> turn
> the key to the 'on' position a couple of times and not start it. After
> 3 or 4 times see if it starts easy. If it does, that means that you
> have an issue with maintaining fuel pressure.
>
> And mpg....i get 15.5....it ain't a hybrid



i can turn the key onece w/o starting it and it cranks up right up o
the second key turn ?? th


--
magicman

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

97tjMike Wrote:
> i had a similar problem on my 97. If it's the fuel pressure system
> (which it sounds like) shoot me a message and I can walk you thru the
> steps to fixing it. A good way to test if its a fuel problem is t
> turn
> the key to the 'on' position a couple of times and not start it. After
> 3 or 4 times see if it starts easy. If it does, that means that you
> have an issue with maintaining fuel pressure.
>
> And mpg....i get 15.5....it ain't a hybrid



i can turn the key onece w/o starting it and it cranks up right up o
the second key turn ?? th


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magicman

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

Sounds like the check valve in the regulator has failed or an injector is
leaking.

Do you have a single puff of black smoke when you start up?

You can do a leakdown test to determine which problem you have.


"magicman" <magicman.2je9f5@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
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>
> 97tjMike Wrote:
>> i had a similar problem on my 97. If it's the fuel pressure system
>> (which it sounds like) shoot me a message and I can walk you thru the
>> steps to fixing it. A good way to test if its a fuel problem is to
>> turn
>> the key to the 'on' position a couple of times and not start it. After
>> 3 or 4 times see if it starts easy. If it does, that means that you
>> have an issue with maintaining fuel pressure.
>>
>> And mpg....i get 15.5....it ain't a hybrid
>
>
>
> i can turn the key onece w/o starting it and it cranks up right up on
> the second key turn ?? thx
>
>
>
>
> --
> magicman

Re: 99 wrangler hard start
 

Sounds like the check valve in the regulator has failed or an injector is
leaking.

Do you have a single puff of black smoke when you start up?

You can do a leakdown test to determine which problem you have.


"magicman" <magicman.2je9f5@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:magicman.2je9f5@news.autobanter.com...
>
> 97tjMike Wrote:
>> i had a similar problem on my 97. If it's the fuel pressure system
>> (which it sounds like) shoot me a message and I can walk you thru the
>> steps to fixing it. A good way to test if its a fuel problem is to
>> turn
>> the key to the 'on' position a couple of times and not start it. After
>> 3 or 4 times see if it starts easy. If it does, that means that you
>> have an issue with maintaining fuel pressure.
>>
>> And mpg....i get 15.5....it ain't a hybrid
>
>
>
> i can turn the key onece w/o starting it and it cranks up right up on
> the second key turn ?? thx
>
>
>
>
> --
> magicman