Hi Earle,
Yes, I will switch container colors, thanks. I promise to look for
leaks so as not to poison all the cats of the neighborhood, that love to
drink alcohol like I.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I mentioned the Prestone "patented Organic Acid Technology formula"
> because it comes in a yellow container, according to their web site,
> and that is what Bill says, that he has been using. According to the
> "Real ethylene glycol" comment, maybe be wants the black container
> stuff now. The (apparently) good stuff is now labelled "Prestone®
> Heavy Duty Antifreeze/Coolant" and comes in one gallon black plastic
> containers. "Heavy Duty" looks good to me, but still you have to
> remember that everything printed on the outside of a consumer package,
> is hype. I should know. I used to work for Microsoft.
>
> By the way, if deer or other wildlife should happen to ingest any of
> the ethylene glycol that leaks out of your vehicle, try giving them
> beer, as an antidote. Ethylene glycol as a poison acts by being turned
> into insoluble crystals in the kidneys, and thereby damaging them, or
> eliminating kidney function entirely. Ethanol in beer displaces
> ethylene glycol from this process, and causes it to be voided as a
> liquid. If you get the beer to them early enough, you can save them.
> There should be no trouble getting deer or any other woodland critters
> to drink beer.
>
> Earle

 

Ethylene glycol is the poison the screaming Greenies want remove
from our environment.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Most still use ethylene glycol as the base, the differences are in the
> additives.
>
> DexCool was designed by Texaco for GM to eat away and clog everything in the
> cooling system. That way they sell more replacement parts and the
> dealerships make profits off repair labor. To GM that is a win-win
> scenario.
>
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

 

Ethylene glycol is the poison the screaming Greenies want remove
from our environment.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Most still use ethylene glycol as the base, the differences are in the
> additives.
>
> DexCool was designed by Texaco for GM to eat away and clog everything in the
> cooling system. That way they sell more replacement parts and the
> dealerships make profits off repair labor. To GM that is a win-win
> scenario.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

 

Ethylene glycol is the poison the screaming Greenies want remove
from our environment.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Most still use ethylene glycol as the base, the differences are in the
> additives.
>
> DexCool was designed by Texaco for GM to eat away and clog everything in the
> cooling system. That way they sell more replacement parts and the
> dealerships make profits off repair labor. To GM that is a win-win
> scenario.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

 

I've read everything posted so far. I found this
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/referencechart.html and it shows Chrysler
vehicles 2001 and older and 2002 and newer. Where does that leave our jeeps?

JoBo

"Mood" <JimMood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130175889.477248.307730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My 98 TJ SE developed a bad coolant leak out a freeze plug in the head.
> When I pulled over to investigate, an awful brown liquid was steaming
> out of the block, I thought it was the head gasket. It was towed to the
> dealer Saturday, now I'm being told the coolant is bad and the freeze
> plugs and radiator are rotted and leaking. In addition, the water pump
> bearings are shot. I don't disagree with the diagnosis at all, but I'm
> quite puzzled.
>
> This Jeep had a flush and coolant change about 2 years ago in the fall.
> I can't understand what in the hell ruined the coolant so fast? I know
> it's about due for another flush, but this situation seems really bad
> considering the amount of corrosion, any ideas?
>

 

I've read everything posted so far. I found this
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/referencechart.html and it shows Chrysler
vehicles 2001 and older and 2002 and newer. Where does that leave our jeeps?

JoBo

"Mood" <JimMood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130175889.477248.307730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My 98 TJ SE developed a bad coolant leak out a freeze plug in the head.
> When I pulled over to investigate, an awful brown liquid was steaming
> out of the block, I thought it was the head gasket. It was towed to the
> dealer Saturday, now I'm being told the coolant is bad and the freeze
> plugs and radiator are rotted and leaking. In addition, the water pump
> bearings are shot. I don't disagree with the diagnosis at all, but I'm
> quite puzzled.
>
> This Jeep had a flush and coolant change about 2 years ago in the fall.
> I can't understand what in the hell ruined the coolant so fast? I know
> it's about due for another flush, but this situation seems really bad
> considering the amount of corrosion, any ideas?
>

 

I've read everything posted so far. I found this
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/referencechart.html and it shows Chrysler
vehicles 2001 and older and 2002 and newer. Where does that leave our jeeps?

JoBo

"Mood" <JimMood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130175889.477248.307730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My 98 TJ SE developed a bad coolant leak out a freeze plug in the head.
> When I pulled over to investigate, an awful brown liquid was steaming
> out of the block, I thought it was the head gasket. It was towed to the
> dealer Saturday, now I'm being told the coolant is bad and the freeze
> plugs and radiator are rotted and leaking. In addition, the water pump
> bearings are shot. I don't disagree with the diagnosis at all, but I'm
> quite puzzled.
>
> This Jeep had a flush and coolant change about 2 years ago in the fall.
> I can't understand what in the hell ruined the coolant so fast? I know
> it's about due for another flush, but this situation seems really bad
> considering the amount of corrosion, any ideas?
>

 

Your '93 came with "American Green" and you can continue to use it safely as
long as you flush and refill every 2 years

On the other hand you can spend an additional $1 a gallon and get the G-05
stuff that has better anti-corrosion capacity. Valvoline says it is good
for 5 years but I may change it around 3.5 years (late fall '08 in my case).

why would I do this you are thinking....... The answer(s) are fairly
simple.
1. I have had vehicles with cooling system problems and once the problems
get bad they NEVER go away.

2. I prefer to prevent serious problems with small and regular applications
of time and money than large applications of money and downtime cause by
systems failures at inconvenient times

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"yjarray" <yjarray@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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> So what coolant is appropriate for a YJ (93, 4.0L)?
>
> Not sure what people mean by 'late-model' in a jeep forum, it could be
> interpreted in a variety of ways (IE disc brakes / fuel injection /
> computer / cat conv / radial tires / heater / doors = late model jeep)
>

 

Your '93 came with "American Green" and you can continue to use it safely as
long as you flush and refill every 2 years

On the other hand you can spend an additional $1 a gallon and get the G-05
stuff that has better anti-corrosion capacity. Valvoline says it is good
for 5 years but I may change it around 3.5 years (late fall '08 in my case).

why would I do this you are thinking....... The answer(s) are fairly
simple.
1. I have had vehicles with cooling system problems and once the problems
get bad they NEVER go away.

2. I prefer to prevent serious problems with small and regular applications
of time and money than large applications of money and downtime cause by
systems failures at inconvenient times

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"yjarray" <yjarray@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130268577.311102.97680@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> So what coolant is appropriate for a YJ (93, 4.0L)?
>
> Not sure what people mean by 'late-model' in a jeep forum, it could be
> interpreted in a variety of ways (IE disc brakes / fuel injection /
> computer / cat conv / radial tires / heater / doors = late model jeep)
>

 

Your '93 came with "American Green" and you can continue to use it safely as
long as you flush and refill every 2 years

On the other hand you can spend an additional $1 a gallon and get the G-05
stuff that has better anti-corrosion capacity. Valvoline says it is good
for 5 years but I may change it around 3.5 years (late fall '08 in my case).

why would I do this you are thinking....... The answer(s) are fairly
simple.
1. I have had vehicles with cooling system problems and once the problems
get bad they NEVER go away.

2. I prefer to prevent serious problems with small and regular applications
of time and money than large applications of money and downtime cause by
systems failures at inconvenient times

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"yjarray" <yjarray@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130268577.311102.97680@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> So what coolant is appropriate for a YJ (93, 4.0L)?
>
> Not sure what people mean by 'late-model' in a jeep forum, it could be
> interpreted in a variety of ways (IE disc brakes / fuel injection /
> computer / cat conv / radial tires / heater / doors = late model jeep)
>