'98 XJ Power Window lock-out (gang) switch
10-08-2006, 03:45 PM
#21
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out (gang) switch
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:04:23 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for the replies about checking the condition of the wires
running beneath the driner's carpet, but no wires are routed there on
my '98 XJ.
I am pretty certain that the problem is in the switch in the driver's
armrest, the push-button "childproof" window lock-out, to be
specific. The dealer quoted about $200 for a new switch. I tried
swapping-out one that I'd pulled at u-wrench-it, but it had fewer
working functions than mine (this single part contains switches for
mirrors, windows, and door locks) - but the particular window problem
was corrected.
Removing and spray-cleaning the switch used to provide a temporary
fix, but no more.
So to repeat my question, I'm just wondering whether I could either
cut one wire or jump two together at the wire loom feeding the switch
in the driver's door - to mimic the window "unlock" mode. Since
toggling the switch is supposed to supply/cut power to the other
window switches. Is anyone familiar with the particular wires that
would be involved? Otherwise, I guess it'll just be trial and error.
Thanks for any help.
js
>Hello, group-
>All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>
>Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>
>Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>js
Thanks for the replies about checking the condition of the wires
running beneath the driner's carpet, but no wires are routed there on
my '98 XJ.
I am pretty certain that the problem is in the switch in the driver's
armrest, the push-button "childproof" window lock-out, to be
specific. The dealer quoted about $200 for a new switch. I tried
swapping-out one that I'd pulled at u-wrench-it, but it had fewer
working functions than mine (this single part contains switches for
mirrors, windows, and door locks) - but the particular window problem
was corrected.
Removing and spray-cleaning the switch used to provide a temporary
fix, but no more.
So to repeat my question, I'm just wondering whether I could either
cut one wire or jump two together at the wire loom feeding the switch
in the driver's door - to mimic the window "unlock" mode. Since
toggling the switch is supposed to supply/cut power to the other
window switches. Is anyone familiar with the particular wires that
would be involved? Otherwise, I guess it'll just be trial and error.
Thanks for any help.
js
>Hello, group-
>All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>
>Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>
>Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>js
10-08-2006, 03:45 PM
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out (gang) switch
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:04:23 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for the replies about checking the condition of the wires
running beneath the driner's carpet, but no wires are routed there on
my '98 XJ.
I am pretty certain that the problem is in the switch in the driver's
armrest, the push-button "childproof" window lock-out, to be
specific. The dealer quoted about $200 for a new switch. I tried
swapping-out one that I'd pulled at u-wrench-it, but it had fewer
working functions than mine (this single part contains switches for
mirrors, windows, and door locks) - but the particular window problem
was corrected.
Removing and spray-cleaning the switch used to provide a temporary
fix, but no more.
So to repeat my question, I'm just wondering whether I could either
cut one wire or jump two together at the wire loom feeding the switch
in the driver's door - to mimic the window "unlock" mode. Since
toggling the switch is supposed to supply/cut power to the other
window switches. Is anyone familiar with the particular wires that
would be involved? Otherwise, I guess it'll just be trial and error.
Thanks for any help.
js
>Hello, group-
>All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>
>Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>
>Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>js
Thanks for the replies about checking the condition of the wires
running beneath the driner's carpet, but no wires are routed there on
my '98 XJ.
I am pretty certain that the problem is in the switch in the driver's
armrest, the push-button "childproof" window lock-out, to be
specific. The dealer quoted about $200 for a new switch. I tried
swapping-out one that I'd pulled at u-wrench-it, but it had fewer
working functions than mine (this single part contains switches for
mirrors, windows, and door locks) - but the particular window problem
was corrected.
Removing and spray-cleaning the switch used to provide a temporary
fix, but no more.
So to repeat my question, I'm just wondering whether I could either
cut one wire or jump two together at the wire loom feeding the switch
in the driver's door - to mimic the window "unlock" mode. Since
toggling the switch is supposed to supply/cut power to the other
window switches. Is anyone familiar with the particular wires that
would be involved? Otherwise, I guess it'll just be trial and error.
Thanks for any help.
js
>Hello, group-
>All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>
>Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>
>Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>js
10-11-2006, 09:14 PM
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
10-11-2006, 09:14 PM
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
10-11-2006, 09:14 PM
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
driver's door. Thanks.
js
>Original poster, here-
>I removed the trim pieces and rolled-back the carpeting. I found no
>wires anywhere under the carpet. They all appear to be routed along
>the dash. This is a '98 XJ. Please correct me if I have done
>something wrong. Thanks.
>
>Jim
>
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:40:48 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bill-
>>Right after I walk the dog, I'll remove the mouldings and check the
>>wires under the carpet. However, in the past, I have removed and
>>cleaned the switch, with the effect being a temporary repair - but it
>>could be coincidental, since that didn't always work. I'll let you
>>know.
>>
>>Jim
>>'98 XJ daily driver, mostly stock
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:24:39 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi JS,
>>> Others have found corrosion in the wires as the cross underneath
>>>the driver's side carpet.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>lou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, group-
>>>> All of the functions operate properly from the driver's window/door
>>>> lock switch. However, the lock-out button for the window has been
>>>> failing, and now is totally shot - meaning that the other 3 windows
>>>> can only be operated by the driver. I do not care about retaining the
>>>> ability to lock-out any passengers' use of the windows, and I am too
>>>> cheap to pay the dealer's price for a new switch.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is it possible to simply jump a pair of wires to bypass the
>>>> lock-out switch? If so, which color wires would they be?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> js
10-11-2006, 11:47 PM
#26
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
Thanks for telling us about your fix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
10-11-2006, 11:47 PM
#27
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
Thanks for telling us about your fix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
10-11-2006, 11:47 PM
#28
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Re: '98 XJ Power Window lock-out switch - Final Post (OP)
Thanks for telling us about your fix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
98XJ wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:36:16 -0400, lou <jjsegr@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, you guys were on the right track. Last night, I located the
> fault in the wiring, but rather than in the floor, it was where the
> wires are flexed between the switch and bending to go through the
> driver's door. Thanks.
>
> js
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