Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

Hi Herb,
The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
chargers out of the wall:
http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
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>
> What kind? Don't care. The problem is the total energy cost of the
panel.
> Coal, oil, nuke, or solar--as long as the panels produce more energy in
> their lifetimes than what they took up to be made themselves, the
situation
> is a win, otherwise it is a waste...
>
> /herb



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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

Hi Herb,
The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
chargers out of the wall:
http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:w5udnfqHB64H_9TbnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>
> What kind? Don't care. The problem is the total energy cost of the
panel.
> Coal, oil, nuke, or solar--as long as the panels produce more energy in
> their lifetimes than what they took up to be made themselves, the
situation
> is a win, otherwise it is a waste...
>
> /herb



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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

Hi Herb,
The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
chargers out of the wall:
http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:w5udnfqHB64H_9TbnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>
> What kind? Don't care. The problem is the total energy cost of the
panel.
> Coal, oil, nuke, or solar--as long as the panels produce more energy in
> their lifetimes than what they took up to be made themselves, the
situation
> is a win, otherwise it is a waste...
>
> /herb



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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

In article <464a7960$0$16320$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
#hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
#chargers out of the wall:
#http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA

Hiya, Bill!

Well, yeah! Anything that has "iPod" or "for iPod" on it is way the
heck over priced for what you get!

Heck--look at it--the cells are way to small to do jack.

The thing to do is to leave the iPod charger stuck to your wall and have
a bank of *decent* sized solar panels on your roof. Forget storing in a
battery array--use the grid (your meter will run backwards when you make
more than what you use). After a year or five, as you mentioned in
another post, the juice they give off will be energy return on investment
(EROI) positive and so your iPod getting charged off of them would pretty
much be free in terms of new energy use. (That does NOT mean the money
you dumped into the panels will be paid back! That depends on the price
of electricity over the years you have the panels going.)

/herb

Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

In article <464a7960$0$16320$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
#hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
#chargers out of the wall:
#http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA

Hiya, Bill!

Well, yeah! Anything that has "iPod" or "for iPod" on it is way the
heck over priced for what you get!

Heck--look at it--the cells are way to small to do jack.

The thing to do is to leave the iPod charger stuck to your wall and have
a bank of *decent* sized solar panels on your roof. Forget storing in a
battery array--use the grid (your meter will run backwards when you make
more than what you use). After a year or five, as you mentioned in
another post, the juice they give off will be energy return on investment
(EROI) positive and so your iPod getting charged off of them would pretty
much be free in terms of new energy use. (That does NOT mean the money
you dumped into the panels will be paid back! That depends on the price
of electricity over the years you have the panels going.)

/herb

Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

In article <464a7960$0$16320$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
#hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
#chargers out of the wall:
#http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA

Hiya, Bill!

Well, yeah! Anything that has "iPod" or "for iPod" on it is way the
heck over priced for what you get!

Heck--look at it--the cells are way to small to do jack.

The thing to do is to leave the iPod charger stuck to your wall and have
a bank of *decent* sized solar panels on your roof. Forget storing in a
battery array--use the grid (your meter will run backwards when you make
more than what you use). After a year or five, as you mentioned in
another post, the juice they give off will be energy return on investment
(EROI) positive and so your iPod getting charged off of them would pretty
much be free in terms of new energy use. (That does NOT mean the money
you dumped into the panels will be paid back! That depends on the price
of electricity over the years you have the panels going.)

/herb

Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
 

In article <464a7960$0$16320$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The energy it took to make this iPod charger is the equivalent of a
#hundred and ten bucks, I don't know about you, but I don't bother to pull my
#chargers out of the wall:
#http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p7....hannelid=NEXTA

Hiya, Bill!

Well, yeah! Anything that has "iPod" or "for iPod" on it is way the
heck over priced for what you get!

Heck--look at it--the cells are way to small to do jack.

The thing to do is to leave the iPod charger stuck to your wall and have
a bank of *decent* sized solar panels on your roof. Forget storing in a
battery array--use the grid (your meter will run backwards when you make
more than what you use). After a year or five, as you mentioned in
another post, the juice they give off will be energy return on investment
(EROI) positive and so your iPod getting charged off of them would pretty
much be free in terms of new energy use. (That does NOT mean the money
you dumped into the panels will be paid back! That depends on the price
of electricity over the years you have the panels going.)

/herb