97 xj Ball Joint
03-25-2006, 08:24 PM
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97 xj Ball Joint
Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
03-25-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
Get another opinion.
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
03-25-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
Get another opinion.
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
03-25-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
Get another opinion.
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
Find out for sure if the caster setting is really that far off from
factory specs. Normally, playing with the toe will correct a
right-pull. You would normally have be off more than a full degree on
a cross-caster for it to create a pull like that.
Are you sure it isn't just a radial tire pull? Have they tried
rotating the tires to see if that affected it? Have them check the
power steering valving as well.
It is also remotely possible that a wrong/bad front end bushing was
installed at the factory. I've also seen 'new' cars with damaged
A-frames and spindles that pulled. I'd find an alignment specialist
and pay the man for a 2nd opinion on this one before I gave the
stealership any money.
OT: Moog makes great stuff. Go with that if you can.
-JD
03-25-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
03-25-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
03-25-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
bearing problem.
Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
Replacing them :
http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
MJG wrote:
>
> Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where it
> was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
> adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the part,
> found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that I
> did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>
> Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
> offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
03-26-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
'They all do that."
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4426bbfc$0$11105$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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03-26-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
'They all do that."
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4426bbfc$0$11105$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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03-26-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: 97 xj Ball Joint
'They all do that."
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4426bbfc$0$11105$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4426bbfc$0$11105$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>I wonder how this vehicle "has pulled to the right since new" without ever
> getting fixed. It sounds as if it should have been a new vehicle warranty
> issue.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4426039C.D4230BBF@***.net...
>> I'm thinking the pulling is more than likely a tire, brake, wheel
>> bearing problem.
>> Is it lifted? Not, usually just replacing the joint will bring her
>> back in, unless it's a bent axle tube, which is easy to correct.
>> Replacing them :
>> http://members.***.net/rough-riders/...30/dana30.html
>> Drawing: http://www.----------.com/temp/ballJointDraw.jpg An offset king
>> pin bearing: http://www.----------.com/temp/Dana3...tBallJoint.pdf
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> MJG wrote:
>> >
>> > Vehicle has pulled to the right since new. It is now at a point where
> it
>> > was recommended that I put in offset ball joints as there is no castor
>> > adjustment in the original ball joints. Dealership wants 200 for the
> part,
>> > found them online from moog for +/- 60. I explained to the dealer that
> I
>> > did not have the "Gold Package" on my XJ,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the differences between them? What does the OEM offset
>> > offer as opposed to the aftermarket items?
>
>
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