95 yj axle woes
10-15-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
Sigh. You are correct on it being a Dana 35 not a Dana 30. And I would
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>
10-15-2007, 06:59 PM
#42
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
Sigh. You are correct on it being a Dana 35 not a Dana 30. And I would
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>
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