95 yj axle woes
10-15-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
<kirayotaka@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
If you find an axle you like, but the ratio doens't match you can get new
gears for it....
10-15-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
<kirayotaka@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
If you find an axle you like, but the ratio doens't match you can get new
gears for it....
10-15-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
<kirayotaka@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
If you find an axle you like, but the ratio doens't match you can get new
gears for it....
10-15-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
10-15-2007, 05:57 PM
#35
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
10-15-2007, 05:57 PM
#36
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Re: 95 yj axle woes
The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
$450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts, plumb the
>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something like
>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2" inboard.
>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana 44
>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>
>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25, which
>>>> is
>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>> welding.
>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you get
>>>> the
>>>> right ratio.
>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to pick
>>>>> over
>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of them.
>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are to
>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from an
>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>> thanks guys.
>
> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> thanks
>
10-15-2007, 06:27 PM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: 95 yj axle woes
You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
10-15-2007, 06:27 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 95 yj axle woes
You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
10-15-2007, 06:27 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 95 yj axle woes
You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
suspect housing damage.
Cheers,
Earle
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>
> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>
> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>
> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
> >> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
plumb the
> >> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
like
> >> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
inboard.
> >> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
44
> >> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
> >>
> >> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> >>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
which
> >>>> is
> >>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
> >>>> welding.
> >>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
get
> >>>> the
> >>>> right ratio.
> >>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
pick
> >>>>> over
> >>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
them.
> >>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
> >>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
to
> >>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
an
> >>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
> >>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
> >>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
> >>> thanks guys.
> >
> > ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
> > from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
> > thanks
> >
10-15-2007, 06:59 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 95 yj axle woes
Sigh. You are correct on it being a Dana 35 not a Dana 30. And I would
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>
agree on being quite suspect of the axle housing.
Earle Horton wrote:
> You have a tipo. Dana 30 is the front axle on this vehicle. Dana 35c is
> the rear. "c" stands for either "C-clip", "custom" or "crap" according to a
> lot of past posters here. In my experience, I haven't burned out the one
> behind my four banger yet. I would be leary of rebuilding one that is
> howling and has a bent axle shaft in it. That kind of stuff makes me
> suspect housing damage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:13h7okqteljpl8e@corp.supernews.com...
>> The 4 banger YJ should have a 4.11:1 axle ratio (but always check before
>> making a purchase!!). This is a desirable ratio for an upgrade so the
>> junkyard parts are not as easy to come by.
>>
>> this might be a case of 'if you have to ask the question, you don't want
>> to know the answer'. You do NOT want to do the XJ swap or the Eplorer
>> swap unless you have a lot of experienced mechanics for friends or the
>> bucks to pay a shop to do it right.
>>
>> Around here a used YJ Dana 30 axle in 4:11 gears runs around $250 to
>> $450 complete. This is a bolt in swap, plenty strong behind a 4
>> cylinder. This is a bit cheaper than new gears and bearings in your
>> existing axle installed by a decent independent shop.
>>
>> kirayotaka@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> Swapping either an XJ axle or a Ford axle will probably be close to the
>>>> same, with either you'd have to fabricate spring and shock mounts,
> plumb the
>>>> brake lines and replace the driveshaft. The Ford axle will be something
> like
>>>> 1" narrower in track, meaning your rear wheels will locate 1/2"
> inboard.
>>>> It;s a popluar swap because the 8.8 is on par strength-wise with a Dana
> 44
>>>> and the wheel lug pattern is the same.
>>>>
>>>> <kirayot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192412789.815865.175950@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 6:13 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Correct, and some of the XJ's were not Danas, but Chrysler's 8.25,
> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> closer in strength to a 44. Won't be a direct swap in without some
>>>>>> welding.
>>>>>> A popular swap is a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer. Just make sure you
> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right ratio.
>>>>>> "RoyJ" <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13h5bpqlgfeo882@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> Seems to me I remember XJ's to be spring over? I was all set to
> pick
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> a backyard full of XJ's for various axle parts, no go on all of
> them.
>>>>>>> kirayot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> my new-to-me 95 yj's rear end is loud as hell and has a bent driver
>>>>>>>> side axle. (im guessing hard wheeling and sand/water crossings are
> to
>>>>>>>> blame) how much work might it be to swap in a whole rear end from
> an
>>>>>>>> xj ? i hear they are simler/the same.
>>>>> begin stupid questions... its a four banger. would the 8.8 be
>>>>> appropriate/an easier swap? is the ratio all id have to check?
>>>>> thanks guys.
>>> ok then i guess i'll check the ratios on the explorers as well, but
>>> from the talk i hear i will likely be out of luck in either case.
>>> thanks
>>>
>
>