93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
09-01-2005, 07:30 AM
#21
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
D did pass the time by typing:
> Hi All,
> Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto, began
> to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After limping
> along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing revs,
> coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and it
> looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's trying
> to flood out.
> Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake manifold
> collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought I
> had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to describe.
> Thanks all.
Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Hi All,
> Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto, began
> to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After limping
> along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing revs,
> coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and it
> looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's trying
> to flood out.
> Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake manifold
> collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought I
> had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to describe.
> Thanks all.
Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
09-01-2005, 09:45 AM
#22
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Great suggestions all.
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
09-01-2005, 09:45 AM
#23
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Great suggestions all.
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
09-01-2005, 09:45 AM
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Great suggestions all.
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
09-01-2005, 09:45 AM
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Great suggestions all.
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
The converter is 258,000 miles old. (Authenic original equipment) Heh
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
09-01-2005, 09:46 AM
#26
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Thanks Will.
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
09-01-2005, 09:46 AM
#27
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Thanks Will.
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
09-01-2005, 09:46 AM
#28
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Thanks Will.
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
09-01-2005, 09:46 AM
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Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich?
Thanks Will.
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
These are great suggestions too.
Denny
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-FK3WJ0M68JLr@anon.none.net...
> I've had that happen twice. First time, it was a dying fuel pump.
> Put a guage on the fuel rail and watch as you drive it a little. That
> problem didn't react to heat (how long it was running) but was
> constant. Second time, I replace the CPS and it ran fine for a while
> then started the same crap. My fault - I didn't secure the cable and
> it got against the exhaust and melted enough to cause an intermittent
> short. Same go/no-go you describe. First pass, clean the CPS
> connector really well with contact cleaner (WD40 works fairly well in
> a pinch) and see what happens. While your in there, inspect the cable
> to make sure it hasn't gotten against the exhaust.
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:08:56 UTC "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
> > Denny
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea
09-01-2005, 10:36 AM
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Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 93' Grand Cherokee Runs Rich? Codes
I pulled the codes.
They were 1,2,5,5
So, is that a 25 code? 12 code?
I get confused.
Thanks.
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
They were 1,2,5,5
So, is that a 25 code? 12 code?
I get confused.
Thanks.
Denny
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:cDBRe.2129$P34.647@okepread07...
> D did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi All,
> > Today on a road trip, my Jeep, 93' Grand Cherokee Laredo, 6 cyl. auto,
began
> > to accept no throttle without slogging down and nearly dying. After
limping
> > along the side of the highway for a quarter mile, it suddenly seemed to
> > clear and work well for 20 more miles. Then the same thing over again.
> > When it happens, I can press the throttle slightly and get increasing
revs,
> > coasting in neutral. Press it too much though or put it under load, and
it
> > looses revs. It will not maintain speed.
> > Have you ever had a weed eater that acted like that? Almost like it's
trying
> > to flood out.
> > Now, I did find the vacuum tube from the head cover to the intake
manifold
> > collapsed. It was fowled. I cleared it and ran the car 40 miles. Thought
I
> > had the problem fixed but then it happened again, just as bad.
> > Recent repairs made: I had the alternator replaced day before yesterday.
> > That's about it. Ideas? Any questions? This is a hard problem to
describe.
> > Thanks all.
>
> Before going any further, pull the engine codes.
> http://revbeergoggles.com/engine_codes.html
>
> How old is your catalytic converter? A plugged cat can cause the
> symtoms you describe. As can a few other things.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>