91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
12-30-2004, 04:56 PM
#41
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
12-30-2004, 04:56 PM
#42
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
12-30-2004, 04:56 PM
#43
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D4647D.20AED705@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
> wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it
died a
> > horrible
> > death rather than unscrew:
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
> >
> > The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a
chisel.
> >
> > Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts
getting
> > dark about 3:15pm).
> > I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got
the
> > whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get
another
> > hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> > warehouse.
> >
> > Dave Milne
12-30-2004, 05:49 PM
#44
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-30-2004, 05:49 PM
#45
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-30-2004, 05:49 PM
#46
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
unbolt and replace it too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles, but
> it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-31-2004, 01:10 PM
#47
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-31-2004, 01:10 PM
#48
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-31-2004, 01:10 PM
#49
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
new drive cog.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> unbolt and replace it too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
but
> > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-31-2004, 02:31 PM
#50
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Hi Dave,
You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
against the spindle.
The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
outer nut will take up about half that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
> a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
> says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
> I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
> taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
> was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
> I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
> so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
> develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
> new drive cog.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> > I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> > the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> > unbolt and replace it too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
> but
> > > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
against the spindle.
The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
outer nut will take up about half that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
> a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
> says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
> I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
> taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
> was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
> I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
> so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
> develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
> new drive cog.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D48617.CB2D2384@***.net...
> > I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> > the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> > unbolt and replace it too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
> but
> > > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
