91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
#71
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Yes, I see now the exhaust manifold couldn't fit either:
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
#72
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Yes, I see now the exhaust manifold couldn't fit either:
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
#73
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Yes, I see now the exhaust manifold couldn't fit either:
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
http://www.----------.com/temp/258.4LheaderGaskets.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
>
> It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
>
> Mike
#74
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Sure Bill, here you are:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
#75
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Sure Bill, here you are:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
#76
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Sure Bill, here you are:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
To quote from the site:
From here, put your carb back onto the intake manifold including all the
vacuum lines, fuel lines, etc as you took them off.
End quote.
And the parts needed list:
4.0L Head Provided by Koller Dodge
- 4.0L Head Gasket
- 4.0L Exhaust Manifold or Header
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- 4.0L Valve Cover
- 4.0L Valve Cover Gasket
- Tubes of QuikSteel Epoxy Putty
- Sand Paper (fine)
--------------------
Note no intake needed as the old 258 one with it's carb will be used.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Can you point to that site, because it's the exhaust only that may
> be bolted to the four liter head, and 258 CID head.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, offroad.com shows it works just fine plus lots of folks use the
> > 4.0 head in their 258's and keep the carb.
> >
> > It's just the exhaust that doesn't fit, you have to use the 4.0 header.
> >
> > Mike
#77
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Why don't you just post the photo over on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#78
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Why don't you just post the photo over on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#79
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Posts: n/a
Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
Why don't you just post the photo over on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 for all to see or email it to me and I
will post it there or in an online public album for 'show and tell'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> While Bill keeps his word and posts the pic I sent to him, and his
> admission of wrongness, I'll describe the pic:
>
> First off the high intake ports are proof positive that it's a 4.0 head,
> the 4.2's ports are dead even with the exhaust. That's a holley TBI in
> place of the carter, most of the factory plumbing is gone, only remains
> of the factory harness in the background and the holley FI harness. The
> coolant return no longer heats the intake which explains the holes.
>
> That's a 4.0 Cherokee thermo housing which is a KILLER swap for your 4.2
> thermo housing if you have aftermarket fuel injection that needs a
> coolant temp sensor, the stock location was of course... in the intake
> which no longer is heated by coolant in my case. The valve cover is a
> 4.2 which technically shouldn't fit on a 4.0, I milled the alignment
> ridge and used a late 4.0 (stamped steel cover) rubber compression
> gasket, worked great. I used the 4.2 because I wanted a place to bolt
> (the old cleaner housing bolt triangle) the custom cold air intake
> tubing (not shown) so I could rout it over to the cooler side of the engine.
>
> Also as with any swap there were bracket issues, my PS bracket is
> chopped gusseted down low and no longer bolts to the intake. I ground
> clearance for the header, and the intake doesn't seem to need the
> support with extra large thick washers keeping it torqued down
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#80
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Re: 91 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 engine transplant.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I have not received your picture of carburetor manifold bolted to a
> four liter head.
I've just Resent it, both times to ----------@***.net, check your spam
filters.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> I have not received your picture of carburetor manifold bolted to a
> four liter head.
I've just Resent it, both times to ----------@***.net, check your spam
filters.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein