90 XJ Ignition Control Module Location
08-27-2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: Oh crap still not working
HA!
Troy
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
>running now is good also.....<g>
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
>> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
>> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
>> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell
>>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it,
>>>> left it there for an hour, started it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>>> me anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside
>>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>>> overheating.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere,
>>>>>>> and put it
>>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>>> check it
>>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>> >> to it and
>>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my
>>>>>>> >> ratchet to get
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition
>>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and
>>>>>>> >> >> saw no
>>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap
>>>>>>> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure
>>>>>>> >> >> when I go
>>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home
>>>>>>> >> >> and have
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am
>>>>>>> >> >> going to
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his
>>>>>>> >> >> 3 day
>>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Troy
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET...
>I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
>running now is good also.....<g>
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
>> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
>> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
>> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell
>>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it,
>>>> left it there for an hour, started it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>>> me anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside
>>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>>> overheating.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere,
>>>>>>> and put it
>>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>>> check it
>>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>> >> to it and
>>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my
>>>>>>> >> ratchet to get
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition
>>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and
>>>>>>> >> >> saw no
>>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap
>>>>>>> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure
>>>>>>> >> >> when I go
>>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home
>>>>>>> >> >> and have
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am
>>>>>>> >> >> going to
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his
>>>>>>> >> >> 3 day
>>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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