90 XJ Ignition Control Module Location
08-25-2006, 09:29 AM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
half the connection.....
Mike
Troy wrote:
>
> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was near
> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it off
> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get to
> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it from
> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it turns
> out.
>
> Troy
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
> > Hi Troy,
> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
> > taped adjustment clearance:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Troy wrote:
> >>
> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
> >>
> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
> >> house,
> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if
> >> it
> >> cranks up.
> >>
> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
> >> all
> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> >> while cranking.
> >>
> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
> >> test
> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and
> >> not
> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
> >> give
> >> and it held strong.
> >>
> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
> >> crank
> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all
> >> my
> >> tools out with my multitester.
> >>
> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
> >> considering
> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give
> >> it
> >> the boot.
> >>
> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
> >> weekend,
> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> >> with this thing.
> >>
> >> Troy
'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
half the connection.....
Mike
Troy wrote:
>
> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was near
> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it off
> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get to
> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it from
> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it turns
> out.
>
> Troy
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
> > Hi Troy,
> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
> > taped adjustment clearance:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Troy wrote:
> >>
> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
> >>
> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
> >> house,
> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if
> >> it
> >> cranks up.
> >>
> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
> >> all
> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> >> while cranking.
> >>
> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
> >> test
> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and
> >> not
> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
> >> give
> >> and it held strong.
> >>
> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
> >> crank
> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all
> >> my
> >> tools out with my multitester.
> >>
> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
> >> considering
> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give
> >> it
> >> the boot.
> >>
> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
> >> weekend,
> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> >> with this thing.
> >>
> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:41 AM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:41 AM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:41 AM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:41 AM
#45
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Re: Oh crap still not working
So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:43 AM
#46
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Re: Oh crap still not working
Oops, forgot to add:
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:43 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
Oops, forgot to add:
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:43 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh crap still not working
Oops, forgot to add:
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 09:43 AM
#49
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Re: Oh crap still not working
Oops, forgot to add:
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all
off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying
directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up
the tranny if it goes through the hole?
Troy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> half the connection.....
>
> Mike
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
>> near
>> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
>> off
>> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
>> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
>> to
>> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
>> from
>> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>> > Hi Troy,
>> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
>> > taped adjustment clearance:
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>> >>
>> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> >> house,
>> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
>> >> if
>> >> it
>> >> cranks up.
>> >>
>> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>> >> control
>> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> >> all
>> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
>> >> spark
>> >> while cranking.
>> >>
>> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>> >> contact,
>> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> >> test
>> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
>> >> and
>> >> not
>> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> >> give
>> >> and it held strong.
>> >>
>> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> >> crank
>> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
>> >> not
>> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
>> >> over
>> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> tools out with my multitester.
>> >>
>> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> >> considering
>> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
>> >> love
>> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
>> >> give
>> >> it
>> >> the boot.
>> >>
>> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> >> weekend,
>> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
>> >> rope
>> >> with this thing.
>> >>
>> >> Troy
08-25-2006, 10:00 AM
#50
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Re: Oh crap still not working
The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
Mike
Troy wrote:
>
> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>
> Troy
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> > half the connection.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Troy wrote:
> >>
> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
> >> near
> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
> >> off
> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
> >> to
> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
> >> from
> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
> >> turns
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
> >> > Hi Troy,
> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Troy wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
> >> >>
> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
> >> >> house,
> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
> >> >> if
> >> >> it
> >> >> cranks up.
> >> >>
> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
> >> >> control
> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
> >> >> all
> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
> >> >> spark
> >> >> while cranking.
> >> >>
> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
> >> >> contact,
> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
> >> >> test
> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
> >> >> and
> >> >> not
> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
> >> >> give
> >> >> and it held strong.
> >> >>
> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
> >> >> crank
> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
> >> >> not
> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
> >> >> over
> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
> >> >> all
> >> >> my
> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
> >> >> considering
> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
> >> >> love
> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
> >> >> give
> >> >> it
> >> >> the boot.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
> >> >> weekend,
> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
> >> >> rope
> >> >> with this thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Troy
will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
Mike
Troy wrote:
>
> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it
> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it
> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone
> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can
> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a
> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>
> Troy
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug
> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans
> > half the connection.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Troy wrote:
> >>
> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was
> >> near
> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it
> >> off
> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get
> >> to
> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it
> >> from
> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it
> >> turns
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
> >> > Hi Troy,
> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Troy wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
> >> >>
> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
> >> >> house,
> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see
> >> >> if
> >> >> it
> >> >> cranks up.
> >> >>
> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
> >> >> control
> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
> >> >> all
> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no
> >> >> spark
> >> >> while cranking.
> >> >>
> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
> >> >> contact,
> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
> >> >> test
> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong
> >> >> and
> >> >> not
> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
> >> >> give
> >> >> and it held strong.
> >> >>
> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
> >> >> crank
> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and
> >> >> not
> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go
> >> >> over
> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have
> >> >> all
> >> >> my
> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
> >> >> considering
> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I
> >> >> love
> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to
> >> >> give
> >> >> it
> >> >> the boot.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
> >> >> weekend,
> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my
> >> >> rope
> >> >> with this thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Troy