90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
05-15-2005, 10:51 AM
#31
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
As per the service manager:
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
05-15-2005, 10:51 AM
#32
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
As per the service manager:
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
05-15-2005, 10:51 AM
#33
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
As per the service manager:
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
ALSO, THE BACK UP LIGHTS WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BY REPLACING THE NEUTRAL
SAFETY SWITCH WHICH COSTS $253.76 + $195.00 (INCL DIAGNOSTIC TIME ON
CHECKING THE WIRING FOR THE SWITCH).
Maybe they are giving me a "break" on the part and raping me for labor (3
hrs vs. AllData's estimate:
Parts . OEM Part
. Price
Neutral Safety Switch
05-15-2005, 10:54 AM
#34
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
Thanks!!
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
05-15-2005, 10:54 AM
#35
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
Thanks!!
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
05-15-2005, 10:54 AM
#36
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
Thanks!!
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
05-15-2005, 10:54 AM
#37
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
Thanks!!
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428743C4.DD953102@sympatico.ca...
> For sure it can be adjusted, that is what the 'adjustment' bolt is all
> about.
>
> It might not be the sloppy part though. That might just be a symptom of
> a worn bushing in the gear shifter linkage. They do tend to get sloppy
> over time and yours is at that age. The adjustment will make up for
> this.
>
> It also could be a symptom of a broken/soft transmission mount or
> bad/soft engine mount. If the tail of the tranny slides a little
> sideways like it will with a torn or bad mount, the linkage goes out of
> adjustment. The adjustment on the switch will not work well or help for
> long if this is the trouble.
>
> I would first do a close inspection of the linkage and mounts, then just
> try adjusting it if all else seems fine. That could last for years
> again.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
05-15-2005, 01:48 PM
#38
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
My local $tealership wanted over $300 for the neutral start switch last fall
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-15-2005, 01:48 PM
#39
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
My local $tealership wanted over $300 for the neutral start switch last fall
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-15-2005, 01:48 PM
#40
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
My local $tealership wanted over $300 for the neutral start switch last fall
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
when mine finally got so bad it would only start in "N". I did a simple
switch bypass and all is good now, I even have rev. lights (on a switch).
Hopefully in July I'll get around to rebuilding the switch.
4 years ago the rev. lights stopped working, considering we drive this XJ
about 35,000 KM's per year it took about 140,000 km's until complete switch
failure.
Snow...
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
