90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
05-14-2005, 10:58 AM
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90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
service dept's techs work on commission....
--
Dana
Port Kent, NY
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
service dept's techs work on commission....
--
Dana
Port Kent, NY
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
05-14-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
It is time to find another $tealer, that one is a plain rip off artist.
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
05-14-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
It is time to find another $tealer, that one is a plain rip off artist.
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
05-14-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
It is time to find another $tealer, that one is a plain rip off artist.
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
05-14-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
It is time to find another $tealer, that one is a plain rip off artist.
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
Yes you can adjust the switch and when bad it can even be rebuilt.
http://www.dirtdevils.org/briantechtippage.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds like
> a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition, and if
> so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the switch or
> shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe this Jeep
> service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
05-14-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-14-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-14-2005, 05:54 PM
#8
Guest
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-14-2005, 05:54 PM
#9
Guest
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
who will pay for the extra time?
Not a dealer tech!
JoBo
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
>
05-14-2005, 07:06 PM
#10
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Re: 90 XJ Backup light switch - Adjust or replace?
It really only sounds like it needs adjusting, maybe replacing or
rebuilding later, much later.....
You are correct that no tech will repair it, that is for the shade tree
specialist. ;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
> replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
> you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
> switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
> to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
> has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
> Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
> But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
> who will pay for the extra time?
>
> Not a dealer tech!
> JoBo
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> > My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> > slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> > adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> > like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> > and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> > switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> > this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> > --
> > Dana
> > Port Kent, NY
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> >
> >
rebuilding later, much later.....
You are correct that no tech will repair it, that is for the shade tree
specialist. ;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> In defense of the stealer, the proper way to repair your condition is to
> replace and adjust the expensive part. However if you check on a jeep forum
> you'll find out how to remove, repair and reinstall the switch. Yes the
> switch is expensive and that dealer is no worse then the rest. It will get
> to the point where it won't start in park, but neutral should work. A dealer
> has to stand behind his work and cleaning and relubing the NSS (Neutral
> Saftey Switch) is a gamble and if you have the time you can do it yourself.
> But if a dealer's tech cleanes and reinstalls it and it dosen't work then
> who will pay for the extra time?
>
> Not a dealer tech!
> JoBo
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:Blohe.16213$rt1.1679@fe04.lga...
> > My 90 XJ backup lights only work if I push the shift lever (automatic)
> > slightly toward "Park". I suggested to the dealer that it may need an
> > adjustment - they countered with nearly $500 P/L to replace it. Sounds
> > like a scam to me. Does anyone have any experience with this condition,
> > and if so, was it just an adjustment or complete replacement? Can the
> > switch or shift mechanism simply be adjusted, or am I on drugs? I believe
> > this Jeep service dept's techs work on commission....
> > --
> > Dana
> > Port Kent, NY
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> >
> >