90 XJ AC and dash lights
05-17-2006, 07:58 PM
#11
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Troy,
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
05-17-2006, 07:58 PM
#12
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Troy,
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
05-17-2006, 07:58 PM
#13
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Troy,
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
You are right, that this is a leak, that didn't "just leak out after 16
years". It is something that got bad in the last six months or so. You
have several options available, of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Drive it to Mexico, get whatever is leaking fixed, and fill it with good old
R12.
Find a redneck with a vacuum pump, buy an R134a conversion kit and some
R134a, follow the instructions, pump it down and charge it up. Hint, maybe
you can rent the vacuum pump locally. Hint 2, I know a guy in Silverton, CO
who has one. You will need O-rings, possibly a metering orifice and R134a
compatible access ports. There are "general purpose" kits, and maybe one
for your specific application. You should use an R134a gauge set for
charging the system, but if you know the amount of refrigerant to use, one
of those cheap recharge kits from Autozone or J.C. Whitney might be made to
work.
Take it to a commercial garage where they will do the same thing, but using
a commercial environment friendly "charging station". Tell them that you
want "all" the leaks fixed. Of course, they won't hear you. This is
probably the best option, if you can find a reputable honest local AC
mechanic. I know a guy in Montrose. Ask around locally before giving
anyone your business. Remember that parts counter people sell stuff to
automotive repair businesses, and that there is a potential conflict of
interest there.
Various methods of leak detection exist, from a red dye that you inject into
the system to sophisticated and expensive electronic freon detectors. I
have had success with the dye, but the stuff that is available today kind of
assumes that you already have R134a in the system. It doesn't have to be a
very fast leak, to empty out a pound or so of refrigerant in a few months.
If you want to go the do it yourself route start here
http://www.acsource.com/index.asp
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:2tmdndtzosyONfbZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Ah thank you Earle and Bill for that info. I have access to an ac
pressure
> gauge thingy, lol whatever its called wow i sound like a newbie. So I'm
> guessing that it wont just leak out after 16 years and that it obviously
has
> to have a leak somewhere? My next question is, using the gauge I have, if
> the pressure is low like it sounds then how do I go about finding this
leak?
> I'm probably better off having a shop check it out aren't I? I wonder how
> much that's gonna cost. Do they even sell Freon anymore or IF i take it
to
> a shop are they going to make me upgrade the system to the r134a? Man
this
> is starting to sound expensive.
>
> Troy
>
>
05-17-2006, 10:53 PM
#14
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a shop
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
05-17-2006, 10:53 PM
#15
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a shop
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
05-17-2006, 10:53 PM
#16
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a shop
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
what all is involved.
Troy
05-18-2006, 12:35 AM
#17
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
I sprung for the vacuum pump, but I stopped short of the recycling station
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
05-18-2006, 12:35 AM
#18
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
I sprung for the vacuum pump, but I stopped short of the recycling station
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
05-18-2006, 12:35 AM
#19
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Re: 90 XJ AC and dash lights
I sprung for the vacuum pump, but I stopped short of the recycling station
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
and leak detector. So far I have done an OEM AC kit installation, and a
compressor, hose and O-ring replacement. I figure I more than saved the
money I spent on the pump and a few tools. The gauges look sexy hanging on
the garage wall too, like maybe I know what I am doing. ;^)
Earle
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:wq-dneoTgZ3fffbZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks for breaking it down for me, haha I think I'm gonna take it to a
shop
> and be at their mercy. I do appreciate the link! I've been looking for a
> place that sells all the components like that to try and get an idea about
> what all is involved.
>
> Troy
>
>
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