87 YJ
12-18-2006, 11:57 PM
#11
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Re: 87 YJ
More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166489844.405274.278480@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
12-18-2006, 11:57 PM
#12
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Re: 87 YJ
More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166489844.405274.278480@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166489844.405274.278480@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
12-18-2006, 11:57 PM
#13
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Re: 87 YJ
More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166489844.405274.278480@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166489844.405274.278480@t46g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I guess the question i should really ask is: has anyone done a similar
> transfer, Auto to manual, and was it more trouble than it's worth? I
> haven't bought the Jeep yet so I'm wondering if I should just say
> forget it and keep looking for a five speed.
>
12-19-2006, 04:09 AM
#14
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Re: 87 YJ
Carl wrote:
> More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
> up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
> Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
> swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
> think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
>
> Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
I know that the NP207 was used for a very short time on the '87
Wranglers before they switched to the NP231.
The situation is: I'd much rather have a manual tranny, and this would
be a project jeep, so I don't mind doing unnecessary work on it. In
fact, I'd enjoy it. This is an '87 that has a few things I want: 6
cylinder, hardtop, clean chassis/body (little to no rust) but is
carbureted (obviously, being an '87) and has an automatic tranny.
I guess it comes down to a general opinion: would it make sense for me
to buy this vehicle for about a grand and swap the auto for a manual or
just wait for a manual to come into my price range (not very high)?
A key point - this is a project for my father and me. It will be torn
apart and rebuilt almost completely anyway.
12-19-2006, 04:09 AM
#15
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Re: 87 YJ
Carl wrote:
> More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
> up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
> Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
> swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
> think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
>
> Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
I know that the NP207 was used for a very short time on the '87
Wranglers before they switched to the NP231.
The situation is: I'd much rather have a manual tranny, and this would
be a project jeep, so I don't mind doing unnecessary work on it. In
fact, I'd enjoy it. This is an '87 that has a few things I want: 6
cylinder, hardtop, clean chassis/body (little to no rust) but is
carbureted (obviously, being an '87) and has an automatic tranny.
I guess it comes down to a general opinion: would it make sense for me
to buy this vehicle for about a grand and swap the auto for a manual or
just wait for a manual to come into my price range (not very high)?
A key point - this is a project for my father and me. It will be torn
apart and rebuilt almost completely anyway.
12-19-2006, 04:09 AM
#16
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Re: 87 YJ
Carl wrote:
> More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will hold
> up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
> Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has been
> swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind ( I
> think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
>
> Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
I know that the NP207 was used for a very short time on the '87
Wranglers before they switched to the NP231.
The situation is: I'd much rather have a manual tranny, and this would
be a project jeep, so I don't mind doing unnecessary work on it. In
fact, I'd enjoy it. This is an '87 that has a few things I want: 6
cylinder, hardtop, clean chassis/body (little to no rust) but is
carbureted (obviously, being an '87) and has an automatic tranny.
I guess it comes down to a general opinion: would it make sense for me
to buy this vehicle for about a grand and swap the auto for a manual or
just wait for a manual to come into my price range (not very high)?
A key point - this is a project for my father and me. It will be torn
apart and rebuilt almost completely anyway.
12-19-2006, 09:20 AM
#17
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Re: 87 YJ
The 5sp in the '87 to early '89 is the Puegot tranny, you will likely
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
12-19-2006, 09:20 AM
#18
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Re: 87 YJ
The 5sp in the '87 to early '89 is the Puegot tranny, you will likely
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
12-19-2006, 09:20 AM
#19
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Re: 87 YJ
The 5sp in the '87 to early '89 is the Puegot tranny, you will likely
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
want to swap that out for something stouter even if you wait for a
manual setup.
Swapping an manual in for an auto involves a lot of little detail parts.
Finding a wrecked doner vehicle is clearly the way to go. It's not to
hard to find a really trashed early YJ for $500, all the parts you want
(bellhousing, flywheel, pedal assembly, etc) are not really wearout parts.
On a side note: if you do the '87 and want to fix up the seats, I have a
fair amount of the special 'Jeep' logo fabric.
The Merg wrote:
> I'm looking at an '87 YJ for a project jeep. (I already own a '93 that
> I drive everyday.) It's a 6 cyl., but it has an automatic. How much
> trouble would it be to swap out the auto for an AX-15? Or some other
> manual that would work more easily?
> I don't know if it has the NP207 or NP231. Would this make a
> difference?
>
> Also, are aftermarket upgrades as readily available for the '87 as they
> are for the later years? I looked a little in catalogs and seemed to
> notice a lot of parts offered for CJs and '88 and later YJs, but not
> for the '87.
>
> Thanks everybody
>
12-19-2006, 10:17 AM
#20
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Re: 87 YJ
I suppose if you were tearing everything else apart it would be worthwhile.
You could get a wrecked YJ or a wrecked XJ for parts. Later than 90 on both
counts, because that's when the AX15 started. If you do have the NP207, just
use the 231 that will come with your donor vehicle.
So long as its in decent shape and the price is right, it sounds like a good
find!
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Carl wrote:
>> More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will
>> hold
>> up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
>> Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has
>> been
>> swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind
>> ( I
>> think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
>>
>> Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>
> I know that the NP207 was used for a very short time on the '87
> Wranglers before they switched to the NP231.
> The situation is: I'd much rather have a manual tranny, and this would
> be a project jeep, so I don't mind doing unnecessary work on it. In
> fact, I'd enjoy it. This is an '87 that has a few things I want: 6
> cylinder, hardtop, clean chassis/body (little to no rust) but is
> carbureted (obviously, being an '87) and has an automatic tranny.
> I guess it comes down to a general opinion: would it make sense for me
> to buy this vehicle for about a grand and swap the auto for a manual or
> just wait for a manual to come into my price range (not very high)?
> A key point - this is a project for my father and me. It will be torn
> apart and rebuilt almost completely anyway.
>
You could get a wrecked YJ or a wrecked XJ for parts. Later than 90 on both
counts, because that's when the AX15 started. If you do have the NP207, just
use the 231 that will come with your donor vehicle.
So long as its in decent shape and the price is right, it sounds like a good
find!
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166519360.561048.91730@a3g2000cwd.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> Carl wrote:
>> More trouble than it's worth. The Aw4 is a stout transmission and will
>> hold
>> up just as well as the AX15 so long as you put a nice big cooler on it.
>> Biscuts to donuts says you have the NP231 transfer case, unless it has
>> been
>> swapped. Considering the NP207 was mostly used in the 84-86 XJ's behind
>> ( I
>> think) the AW4 and Chev 2.8, I find this highly unlikely.
>>
>> Everything that says it is for an 88 will fit an 87.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>
> I know that the NP207 was used for a very short time on the '87
> Wranglers before they switched to the NP231.
> The situation is: I'd much rather have a manual tranny, and this would
> be a project jeep, so I don't mind doing unnecessary work on it. In
> fact, I'd enjoy it. This is an '87 that has a few things I want: 6
> cylinder, hardtop, clean chassis/body (little to no rust) but is
> carbureted (obviously, being an '87) and has an automatic tranny.
> I guess it comes down to a general opinion: would it make sense for me
> to buy this vehicle for about a grand and swap the auto for a manual or
> just wait for a manual to come into my price range (not very high)?
> A key point - this is a project for my father and me. It will be torn
> apart and rebuilt almost completely anyway.
>