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Will Honea 12-23-2006 02:44 AM

Re: 87 YJ
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:25:29 -0800, The Merg wrote:

> Great Success!
> The XJ is in pretty good condition, everything looks clean, motor runs
> very nicely. It needs a new power steering pump and the steering
> column needs tightening (stupid tilt wheel) but otherwise everything
> looks good. The guy is a professional used-car flipper, says he just
> doesn't have time to do the repairs.
>
> Tomorrow my pops and I will be renting a tow dolly and bringing her
> home. It'll be an extra car for a while until we find a Wrangler to
> put the drivetrain in or my 4banger explodes. Either way, a huge find.
>
> By the way, he said the tilt wheel going loose was a common problem on
> XJs. Is this true? Any other common problems I should be on the
> lookout for?


Nice find. The tilt column thing is fairly common and the fix is simple:
tighten the four bolts that hold it together. Like most thing, that's
easier said than done - you have to pull the wheel and break the column way
down (from the top) to get to to those !@#$% screws. I was liberal with
the Loctite when I did mine awhile back.

The other reply I saw mentioned a tight engine bay. They stretched it in
87 when the 4.0 came out, so I have had no problem even running West Texas
in the summer. I understand J. C. Whitney carries the bottles
for the closed cooling system. Thermostat, belts, couple of injectors,
valve cover seal, harmonic balancer and an alternator pretty well covered
my 88 in the 70k miles I've had it (started at 112k) and I still prefer it
on the3 road to my wife's little putt-putts. I have the 88 MJ and the
original POS 5-spd manual died shortly after I got it (that's a real
weakness if it's a manual) but I expected that. other than fixing what I
break, that's about it.


--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 12-23-2006 02:44 AM

Re: 87 YJ
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:25:29 -0800, The Merg wrote:

> Great Success!
> The XJ is in pretty good condition, everything looks clean, motor runs
> very nicely. It needs a new power steering pump and the steering
> column needs tightening (stupid tilt wheel) but otherwise everything
> looks good. The guy is a professional used-car flipper, says he just
> doesn't have time to do the repairs.
>
> Tomorrow my pops and I will be renting a tow dolly and bringing her
> home. It'll be an extra car for a while until we find a Wrangler to
> put the drivetrain in or my 4banger explodes. Either way, a huge find.
>
> By the way, he said the tilt wheel going loose was a common problem on
> XJs. Is this true? Any other common problems I should be on the
> lookout for?


Nice find. The tilt column thing is fairly common and the fix is simple:
tighten the four bolts that hold it together. Like most thing, that's
easier said than done - you have to pull the wheel and break the column way
down (from the top) to get to to those !@#$% screws. I was liberal with
the Loctite when I did mine awhile back.

The other reply I saw mentioned a tight engine bay. They stretched it in
87 when the 4.0 came out, so I have had no problem even running West Texas
in the summer. I understand J. C. Whitney carries the bottles
for the closed cooling system. Thermostat, belts, couple of injectors,
valve cover seal, harmonic balancer and an alternator pretty well covered
my 88 in the 70k miles I've had it (started at 112k) and I still prefer it
on the3 road to my wife's little putt-putts. I have the 88 MJ and the
original POS 5-spd manual died shortly after I got it (that's a real
weakness if it's a manual) but I expected that. other than fixing what I
break, that's about it.


--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Lee Ayrton 12-23-2006 12:27 PM

Re: 87 YJ
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:

> Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> maintained.


I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.




Lee Ayrton 12-23-2006 12:27 PM

Re: 87 YJ
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:

> Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> maintained.


I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.




Lee Ayrton 12-23-2006 12:27 PM

Re: 87 YJ
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:

> Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> maintained.


I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.




The Merg 12-24-2006 12:58 AM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I might sound like an idiot here, but: we brought it home on a
tow dolly, so obviously the front wheels are up. I tried to put the
t-case in neutral, but couldn't seem to find it, had my dad pull the
truck forward hoping to feel the disengage - no dice. Ended up
trailering it with just the tranny in neutral, but it still bothered
me. So what gives? Does the t-case only 'need' to be in neutral for
flat towing or is it me doing stuff wrong or possibly a bad t-case? I
won't be able to really test drive it until I fix the power steering
pump.

There is a small electric fan off to the side of the belt driven fan -
standard or not?

I'll get pictures up as soon as I figure out how to reinstall Dell
Image Expert - without the system disk - which somehow magically
deleted itself when I installed my printer. So now none of my photo
programs work and my camera doesn't get recognized whatsoever by the
computer. Either that or I'll just use my brother's IBook - so much
simpler.


Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:
>
> > Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> > tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> > maintained.

>
> I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
> is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.



The Merg 12-24-2006 12:58 AM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I might sound like an idiot here, but: we brought it home on a
tow dolly, so obviously the front wheels are up. I tried to put the
t-case in neutral, but couldn't seem to find it, had my dad pull the
truck forward hoping to feel the disengage - no dice. Ended up
trailering it with just the tranny in neutral, but it still bothered
me. So what gives? Does the t-case only 'need' to be in neutral for
flat towing or is it me doing stuff wrong or possibly a bad t-case? I
won't be able to really test drive it until I fix the power steering
pump.

There is a small electric fan off to the side of the belt driven fan -
standard or not?

I'll get pictures up as soon as I figure out how to reinstall Dell
Image Expert - without the system disk - which somehow magically
deleted itself when I installed my printer. So now none of my photo
programs work and my camera doesn't get recognized whatsoever by the
computer. Either that or I'll just use my brother's IBook - so much
simpler.


Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:
>
> > Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> > tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> > maintained.

>
> I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
> is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.



The Merg 12-24-2006 12:58 AM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I might sound like an idiot here, but: we brought it home on a
tow dolly, so obviously the front wheels are up. I tried to put the
t-case in neutral, but couldn't seem to find it, had my dad pull the
truck forward hoping to feel the disengage - no dice. Ended up
trailering it with just the tranny in neutral, but it still bothered
me. So what gives? Does the t-case only 'need' to be in neutral for
flat towing or is it me doing stuff wrong or possibly a bad t-case? I
won't be able to really test drive it until I fix the power steering
pump.

There is a small electric fan off to the side of the belt driven fan -
standard or not?

I'll get pictures up as soon as I figure out how to reinstall Dell
Image Expert - without the system disk - which somehow magically
deleted itself when I installed my printer. So now none of my photo
programs work and my camera doesn't get recognized whatsoever by the
computer. Either that or I'll just use my brother's IBook - so much
simpler.


Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:
>
> > Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they do
> > tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> > maintained.

>
> I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that it
> is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.



Earle Horton 12-24-2006 01:23 AM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in neutral, but
neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when driven by
the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are instructed to tow
with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and the TC in
neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to have problems
from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you could have
done was to remove the rear drive shaft.

The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the shift
mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we take our rigs
off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^) You could of
course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own these
vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.

I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166939928.084332.123980@48g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com...
> I think I might sound like an idiot here, but: we brought it home on a
> tow dolly, so obviously the front wheels are up. I tried to put the
> t-case in neutral, but couldn't seem to find it, had my dad pull the
> truck forward hoping to feel the disengage - no dice. Ended up
> trailering it with just the tranny in neutral, but it still bothered
> me. So what gives? Does the t-case only 'need' to be in neutral for
> flat towing or is it me doing stuff wrong or possibly a bad t-case? I
> won't be able to really test drive it until I fix the power steering
> pump.
>
> There is a small electric fan off to the side of the belt driven fan -
> standard or not?
>
> I'll get pictures up as soon as I figure out how to reinstall Dell
> Image Expert - without the system disk - which somehow magically
> deleted itself when I installed my printer. So now none of my photo
> programs work and my camera doesn't get recognized whatsoever by the
> computer. Either that or I'll just use my brother's IBook - so much
> simpler.
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:
> >
> > > Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they

do
> > > tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> > > maintained.

> >
> > I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that

it
> > is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.

>




Earle Horton 12-24-2006 01:23 AM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in neutral, but
neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when driven by
the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are instructed to tow
with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and the TC in
neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to have problems
from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you could have
done was to remove the rear drive shaft.

The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the shift
mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we take our rigs
off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^) You could of
course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own these
vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.

I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166939928.084332.123980@48g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com...
> I think I might sound like an idiot here, but: we brought it home on a
> tow dolly, so obviously the front wheels are up. I tried to put the
> t-case in neutral, but couldn't seem to find it, had my dad pull the
> truck forward hoping to feel the disengage - no dice. Ended up
> trailering it with just the tranny in neutral, but it still bothered
> me. So what gives? Does the t-case only 'need' to be in neutral for
> flat towing or is it me doing stuff wrong or possibly a bad t-case? I
> won't be able to really test drive it until I fix the power steering
> pump.
>
> There is a small electric fan off to the side of the belt driven fan -
> standard or not?
>
> I'll get pictures up as soon as I figure out how to reinstall Dell
> Image Expert - without the system disk - which somehow magically
> deleted itself when I installed my printer. So now none of my photo
> programs work and my camera doesn't get recognized whatsoever by the
> computer. Either that or I'll just use my brother's IBook - so much
> simpler.
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Carl wrote:
> >
> > > Other than that, the 4.0 is too big for the XJ's compartment, so they

do
> > > tend to run hot and sometimes overheat if the cooling system isnt well
> > > maintained.

> >
> > I should be so lucky. My thermostat seems to be stuck open so now that

it
> > is cold outside it takes for ever to make heat.

>





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