87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
12-11-2003, 12:30 AM
#51
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:41:29 GMT, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
wrote:
>In message <n6gftv4jq2ni65n6c6l3mj0mogu3s3bk7a@4ax.com>, "Jeepster" wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>>>> out the valve cover.
>>>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>I decided tonight to do the Nutter bypass on my Jeep today and so far
>>it looks like it might have solved my problems, it starts right up
>>when I flick the key over and the stubble it had at idle seems to be
>>gone.
>>I had the vac advance on ported vacuum already but I did find I had to
>>advance the timing about 2 deg's after the mod, before I did the mod I
>>screwed in the idle screws until it was stalling and then shut it down
>>and unplugged the stepper motor. I did the mod and started it back up
>>it kept stalling of course so I backed the idle screws out 4 turns
>>started it and then cut them back about 1/2 turn, it seemed to idle
>>very well at that point.
>>
>>Like I said before I'm not a mechanic and carb's are certainly not my
>>forte......
>>
>>Question >>> As I screw in the idle screws I'm essentially making the
>>mixture richer correct?
>>
>
>No.
Ok .... thanks
wrote:
>In message <n6gftv4jq2ni65n6c6l3mj0mogu3s3bk7a@4ax.com>, "Jeepster" wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>>>> out the valve cover.
>>>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>I decided tonight to do the Nutter bypass on my Jeep today and so far
>>it looks like it might have solved my problems, it starts right up
>>when I flick the key over and the stubble it had at idle seems to be
>>gone.
>>I had the vac advance on ported vacuum already but I did find I had to
>>advance the timing about 2 deg's after the mod, before I did the mod I
>>screwed in the idle screws until it was stalling and then shut it down
>>and unplugged the stepper motor. I did the mod and started it back up
>>it kept stalling of course so I backed the idle screws out 4 turns
>>started it and then cut them back about 1/2 turn, it seemed to idle
>>very well at that point.
>>
>>Like I said before I'm not a mechanic and carb's are certainly not my
>>forte......
>>
>>Question >>> As I screw in the idle screws I'm essentially making the
>>mixture richer correct?
>>
>
>No.
Ok .... thanks
12-11-2003, 12:30 AM
#52
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:41:29 GMT, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
wrote:
>In message <n6gftv4jq2ni65n6c6l3mj0mogu3s3bk7a@4ax.com>, "Jeepster" wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>>>> out the valve cover.
>>>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>I decided tonight to do the Nutter bypass on my Jeep today and so far
>>it looks like it might have solved my problems, it starts right up
>>when I flick the key over and the stubble it had at idle seems to be
>>gone.
>>I had the vac advance on ported vacuum already but I did find I had to
>>advance the timing about 2 deg's after the mod, before I did the mod I
>>screwed in the idle screws until it was stalling and then shut it down
>>and unplugged the stepper motor. I did the mod and started it back up
>>it kept stalling of course so I backed the idle screws out 4 turns
>>started it and then cut them back about 1/2 turn, it seemed to idle
>>very well at that point.
>>
>>Like I said before I'm not a mechanic and carb's are certainly not my
>>forte......
>>
>>Question >>> As I screw in the idle screws I'm essentially making the
>>mixture richer correct?
>>
>
>No.
Ok .... thanks
wrote:
>In message <n6gftv4jq2ni65n6c6l3mj0mogu3s3bk7a@4ax.com>, "Jeepster" wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>>>> out the valve cover.
>>>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>I decided tonight to do the Nutter bypass on my Jeep today and so far
>>it looks like it might have solved my problems, it starts right up
>>when I flick the key over and the stubble it had at idle seems to be
>>gone.
>>I had the vac advance on ported vacuum already but I did find I had to
>>advance the timing about 2 deg's after the mod, before I did the mod I
>>screwed in the idle screws until it was stalling and then shut it down
>>and unplugged the stepper motor. I did the mod and started it back up
>>it kept stalling of course so I backed the idle screws out 4 turns
>>started it and then cut them back about 1/2 turn, it seemed to idle
>>very well at that point.
>>
>>Like I said before I'm not a mechanic and carb's are certainly not my
>>forte......
>>
>>Question >>> As I screw in the idle screws I'm essentially making the
>>mixture richer correct?
>>
>
>No.
Ok .... thanks
12-12-2003, 12:04 AM
#53
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
12-12-2003, 12:04 AM
#54
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
12-12-2003, 12:04 AM
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
>>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
>>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
>>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
>>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
>>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
>>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
>>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
>>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
>>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
>>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
>>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
>>> out the valve cover.
>Some of my ramblings clipped off.
>>>
>>> TIA
>http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
really only needed on automatic transmissions.
Any thoughts on this?
12-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#56
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
In article <gmiitvo95th2omhg9j94colm59jijuc5cl@4ax.com>, Jeepster
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
12-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#57
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
In article <gmiitvo95th2omhg9j94colm59jijuc5cl@4ax.com>, Jeepster
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
12-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#58
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Posts: n/a
Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
In article <gmiitvo95th2omhg9j94colm59jijuc5cl@4ax.com>, Jeepster
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
<me@excite.com> writes:
After Nutter:
>I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
>wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
>really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
This is non-functional after the Nutter. The computer used to use that to raise
the idle at starting (~1100 for 30 sec then 900 for 2 min I think). Trash it.
I also use a CTO to control timing advance: Manifold vac <155° and ported vac
above that. Cost is $20 but well worth it. Grand Wagoneer technology.
Jim
88 Grand Wagoneer
89 Wrangler
00 Grand Cherokee
12-12-2003, 11:30 AM
#59
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
Jeepster wrote:
>
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
> >>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
> >>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
> >>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
> >>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
> >>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
> >>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
> >>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
> >>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
> >>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
> >>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
> >>> out the valve cover.
> >Some of my ramblings clipped off.
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
>
> Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
> found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
> engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
> dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
> to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
> on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
> would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
> does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
> but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
>
> I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
> wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
> really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
You are correct, the sol vac is for auto and AC and gets disabled with
the Nutter bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
> >>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
> >>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
> >>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
> >>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
> >>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
> >>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
> >>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
> >>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
> >>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
> >>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
> >>> out the valve cover.
> >Some of my ramblings clipped off.
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
>
> Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
> found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
> engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
> dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
> to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
> on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
> would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
> does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
> but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
>
> I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
> wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
> really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
You are correct, the sol vac is for auto and AC and gets disabled with
the Nutter bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
12-12-2003, 11:30 AM
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Re: 87 YJ 258 Cold start problems (Long)
Jeepster wrote:
>
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
> >>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
> >>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
> >>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
> >>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
> >>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
> >>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
> >>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
> >>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
> >>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
> >>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
> >>> out the valve cover.
> >Some of my ramblings clipped off.
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
>
> Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
> found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
> engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
> dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
> to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
> on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
> would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
> does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
> but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
>
> I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
> wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
> really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
You are correct, the sol vac is for auto and AC and gets disabled with
the Nutter bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:04:23 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:55:25 GMT, "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>news:lemctvka347jlpgngcvihp86ug29cungse@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Maybe the experts here might be able to solve a problem with my 4.2 87
> >>> YJ, it is a beast to start in cold weather but starts fine after it
> >>> has been warmed up. I have had it to the "experts" several times and
> >>> so far they have solved nothing! When I take it to work I have
> >>> actually resorted to putting a ceramic heater under the hood, when I
> >>> do this it usually fires up just fine this has got to be telling me
> >>> something. (Northern Canada is where I live and it can get quite cold
> >>> here) Maybe this beast doesn't need to be choked when started?
> >>> The engine has 250K km on it and experiences some blow by which would
> >>> be expected, but damn I can still get it up to 130 km/h on the highway
> >>> and the only oil that it uses is what it blows back or what it leaks
> >>> out the valve cover.
> >Some of my ramblings clipped off.
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm
>
> Just a follow up guys. Since doing the Nutter mod to my Jeep I have
> found that the thing idles like never before, you would think this
> engine had 29,000 km's on it and not 297,000 km's. Last night it
> dipped to -20 Deg C here and I went out this morning pumped it twice
> to set the choke and cranked it over it didn't fire up right away but
> on the second crank away it went, with the computer in the loop it
> would have flooded and I might still be trying to get it to go. It
> does need a bit of feathering of the gas to get it to a steady idle
> but I can live with that minor inconvenience.
>
> I did notice that the sol-vac doesn't seem to respond and I was
> wondering if I should bother to repair this as I thought they were
> really only needed on automatic transmissions.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
You are correct, the sol vac is for auto and AC and gets disabled with
the Nutter bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
