Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill

build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Thanks for the info Billy Ray

I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.

I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.

If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.

Merrill

billy ray wrote:
> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>
> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>
> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
> >
> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> >> hardware, etc....
> >>
> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >>
> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> merrill wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >> >
> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Merrill
> >

build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Thanks for the info Billy Ray

I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.

I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.

If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.

Merrill

billy ray wrote:
> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>
> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>
> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
> >
> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> >> hardware, etc....
> >>
> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >>
> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> merrill wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >> >
> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Merrill
> >