Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 

Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill