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merrill 12-10-2006 07:39 PM

87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.

I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.

Merrill


Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2006 08:13 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2006 08:13 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2006 08:13 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill
>




merrill 12-10-2006 08:49 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thank you Matt

This might be the easy way. I had planned to swap axles and replace the
bolts and bushings.

Merrill

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill
> >



merrill 12-10-2006 08:49 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thank you Matt

This might be the easy way. I had planned to swap axles and replace the
bolts and bushings.

Merrill

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill
> >



merrill 12-10-2006 08:49 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thank you Matt

This might be the easy way. I had planned to swap axles and replace the
bolts and bushings.

Merrill

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Changing just the springs should be OK. Use new U-bolts.
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165797569.111385.221500@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill
> >



Mike Romain 12-11-2006 09:59 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
hardware, etc....

I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.

You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

merrill wrote:
>
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill


Mike Romain 12-11-2006 09:59 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
hardware, etc....

I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.

You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

merrill wrote:
>
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill


Mike Romain 12-11-2006 09:59 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
hardware, etc....

I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.

You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

merrill wrote:
>
> My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>
> I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>
> Merrill


merrill 12-11-2006 06:37 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill



merrill 12-11-2006 06:37 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill



merrill 12-11-2006 06:37 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?

When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
disconnected an XJ driveshaft.

Merrill

Mike Romain wrote:
> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> hardware, etc....
>
> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>
> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> merrill wrote:
> >
> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >
> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >
> > Merrill



Mike Romain 12-11-2006 07:10 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill


Mike Romain 12-11-2006 07:10 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill


Mike Romain 12-11-2006 07:10 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
The U-joints are easy, watch your head though, they can pop out fast.

Mike

merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> > seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> > hardware, etc....
> >
> > I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> > springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >
> > You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> > to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> > marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> > turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> > turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> > ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> > with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> > >
> > > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> > > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> > > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Merrill


billy ray 12-11-2006 09:40 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill

>




billy ray 12-11-2006 09:40 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill

>




billy ray 12-11-2006 09:40 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
Assistance on the Jeep web site.

It will list all kind of information you will need.

http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U

"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill

>




Will Honea 12-11-2006 11:52 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill



Will Honea 12-11-2006 11:52 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill



Will Honea 12-11-2006 11:52 PM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:29 -0800, merrill wrote:

> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has about
> 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use it. I'm
> not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good parts if I
> need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be similar. I had
> planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I only use 4wd to
> get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising. Would that still
> be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> hardware, etc....
>>
>> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
>> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>>
>> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
>> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88
>> Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off
>> Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> merrill wrote:
>> >
>> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >
>> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >
>> > Merrill



L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:20 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:20 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:20 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Next time I would go ahead and convert:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/aub.html That way you may slap a
rock and keep on going.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Go to the stealer and get all new straps for the U-joints. They use flat
> metal straps and re-using them is not a good idea.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:30 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:30 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-12-2006 01:30 AM

Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I know of a couple that got a surprise then they unbolted the
Universal Joint depending on the park to hold the car from rolling, and
one that will never make that mistake again.
Buy a saber saw for your spring hangers and U-Bolts.
Wire bush the ratio tags bolted to their covers, Trailer packages
and SMOG requirements make for many ratios.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


merrill wrote:
>
> The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>
> When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>
> Merrill


merrill 12-31-2006 12:16 PM

build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thanks for the info Billy Ray

I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.

I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.

If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.

Merrill

billy ray wrote:
> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>
> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>
> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
> >
> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> >> hardware, etc....
> >>
> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >>
> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> merrill wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >> >
> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Merrill

> >



merrill 12-31-2006 12:16 PM

build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thanks for the info Billy Ray

I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.

I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.

If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.

Merrill

billy ray wrote:
> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>
> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>
> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
> >
> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> >> hardware, etc....
> >>
> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >>
> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> merrill wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >> >
> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Merrill

> >



merrill 12-31-2006 12:16 PM

build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
Thanks for the info Billy Ray

I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.

I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.

If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.

Merrill

billy ray wrote:
> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>
> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>
> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>
> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
> >
> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
> >> hardware, etc....
> >>
> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has new
> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
> >>
> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel two
> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> merrill wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
> >> >
> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Merrill

> >



billy ray 01-01-2007 01:32 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I was directed to the parts department for mine.


"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1167585384.852741.171170@v33g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
> I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
> zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>
> I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
> DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.
>
> If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
> dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
> open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.
>
> Merrill
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
>> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>>
>> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>>
>> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
>> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
>> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
>> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
>> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
>> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
>> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
>> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>> >
>> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
>> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
>> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>> >
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> >> hardware, etc....
>> >>
>> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has
>> >> new
>> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>> >>
>> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel
>> >> two
>> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> merrill wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Merrill
>> >

>




billy ray 01-01-2007 01:32 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I was directed to the parts department for mine.


"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1167585384.852741.171170@v33g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
> I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
> zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>
> I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
> DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.
>
> If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
> dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
> open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.
>
> Merrill
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
>> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>>
>> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>>
>> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
>> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
>> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
>> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
>> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
>> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
>> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
>> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>> >
>> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
>> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
>> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>> >
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> >> hardware, etc....
>> >>
>> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has
>> >> new
>> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>> >>
>> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel
>> >> two
>> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> merrill wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Merrill
>> >

>




billy ray 01-01-2007 01:32 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
I was directed to the parts department for mine.


"merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1167585384.852741.171170@v33g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
> I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
> zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>
> I want to get a build sheet for all 5 of my Cherokees including my old
> DD, 2 fixer-uppers and 2 parts donors.
>
> If I can't do it online, what should I ask the dealer for? My parts
> dealer Town and Coutry Chrysler (highly reccomended) in Smiths Falls is
> open late on Wednesdays so I could go there after work this week.
>
> Merrill
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> You can get a build sheet at no charge from your local dealer or Customer
>> Assistance on the Jeep web site.
>>
>> It will list all kind of information you will need.
>>
>> http://www-5.jeep.com/wccsapp/univer...ull&category=U
>>
>> "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165880249.847961.119320@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
>> > The 87 has about 300,000km and works well with no leaks. The 89 has
>> > about 200,000km and doesn't leak so I had thought I would probably use
>> > it. I'm not sure about the brake shoes or drums, but the 87 has good
>> > parts if I need them. Both are auto so I assumed the ratios would be
>> > similar. I had planned to check anyway for the few minutes it takes. I
>> > only use 4wd to get out of bad situations and not for highway cruising.
>> > Would that still be a problem if the ratios are not identical?
>> >
>> > When I disconnect the driveshaft, can I expect any surprises with the
>> > universal joint? Most are easy and some are pigs. I have never
>> > disconnected an XJ driveshaft.
>> >
>> > Merrill
>> >
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> >> Which one is in better shape? That means mileage on gears, leaks or
>> >> seeps of oil at the pinion and at the axle ends, brakes and brake
>> >> hardware, etc....
>> >>
>> >> I am thinking on doing the same thing with my 88 and 87. The 88 has
>> >> new
>> >> springs and brakes, but more miles and no leaks.
>> >>
>> >> You need to be sure the gears are the same too or you will not be able
>> >> to use 4x4. You can check the gears by jacking up one rear wheel and
>> >> marking the tire and driveshaft with chalk. You then turn the wheel
>> >> two
>> >> turns while counting the driveshaft revolutions. You can just do one
>> >> turn of the wheel and double the driveshaft revolutions to get the
>> >> ratio. If you jack up both wheels, then it's a one to one count, but
>> >> with just one wheel turning it's a two to one.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> merrill wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > My DD is a 87 XJ 4.0 auto.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have broken rear leaf springs on both sides. I have an 89 XJ for
>> >> > parts. Should I change the springs or the springs with the axle? The
>> >> > axles should have the same (or close) ratio so that is not an issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Merrill
>> >

>




noneofyourbusiness 01-01-2007 05:12 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>


You could always, um, LIE!
"Oops, I thought "CA" (California) *meant* Canada, and the 90028
postal code MUST have been a typo!
;-)

[snip]

....

noneofyourbusiness 01-01-2007 05:12 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>


You could always, um, LIE!
"Oops, I thought "CA" (California) *meant* Canada, and the 90028
postal code MUST have been a typo!
;-)

[snip]

....

noneofyourbusiness 01-01-2007 05:12 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>


You could always, um, LIE!
"Oops, I thought "CA" (California) *meant* Canada, and the 90028
postal code MUST have been a typo!
;-)

[snip]

....

noneofyourbusiness 01-08-2007 02:17 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>

You could, um, ...LIE!
Just say you thought CA (California) was for Canada, and 90028 must
have been a typo!

;-)

[snip]

....

noneofyourbusiness 01-08-2007 02:17 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>

You could, um, ...LIE!
Just say you thought CA (California) was for Canada, and 90028 must
have been a typo!

;-)

[snip]

....

noneofyourbusiness 01-08-2007 02:17 AM

Re: build sheet - Re: 87 XJ rear leaf springs
 
On 31 Dec 2006 09:16:24 -0800, "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the info Billy Ray
>
>I live in Canada so I can't complete the form, it requires a state and
>zip code so it will not accept my province and postal code.
>

You could, um, ...LIE!
Just say you thought CA (California) was for Canada, and 90028 must
have been a typo!

;-)

[snip]

....


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