Charles Stoyer

Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I can
get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.

Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and poor
towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
180-190k miles on them.

Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
clearance (leaf springs).

Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
good.

I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP, newer
(HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.

It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a lot
more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk about
the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does not
come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did but
they are hard to find).

Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee with
a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for light
vehicle with power and low cost.

I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to really
stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons have
you made before buying Jeep?

Thanks in advance,

Charles.

bowgus

Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and do
the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.

- 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in the
winter (246,000 km and running as new).
- Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
- 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
- Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle it's
way up the ramp/beach/stones.


"Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).
>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
>
> It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a lot
> more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does not
> come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did but
> they are hard to find).
>
> Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for light
> vehicle with power and low cost.
>
> I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to really
> stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons have
> you made before buying Jeep?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>

bowgus

Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and do
the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.

- 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in the
winter (246,000 km and running as new).
- Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
- 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
- Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle it's
way up the ramp/beach/stones.


"Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).
>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
>
> It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a lot
> more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does not
> come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did but
> they are hard to find).
>
> Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for light
> vehicle with power and low cost.
>
> I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to really
> stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons have
> you made before buying Jeep?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>

bowgus

Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and do
the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.

- 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in the
winter (246,000 km and running as new).
- Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
- 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
- Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle it's
way up the ramp/beach/stones.


"Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).
>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
>
> It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a lot
> more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does not
> come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did but
> they are hard to find).
>
> Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for light
> vehicle with power and low cost.
>
> I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to really
> stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons have
> you made before buying Jeep?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>

L0nD0t.$t0we11

Roughly 1/15/04 18:59, Charles Stoyer's monkeys randomly typed:

> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.

...just in time to rebuild and hot rod.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).

? Have you checked the Security Chains fitment at their
website? http://www.scc-chain.com/

According them, you can run their chains on the Cherokee
and Grand Cherokee if you use these
tire sizes: [and stay under 30mph]
P215/75-15 P225/70-15 P245/70-15 P225/70-16 P225/75-15

>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP, newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.

If you can find a Cherokee in "engine rebuild" state, you can try
stroking it to 4.7, which will also raise the compression ratio a
bit, into the low 9's. [See HESCO or Clifford Performance websites
for details.] This may be enough to help you a bit at high altitude.

Or visit the Hesco website and drop a blower on a stroked engine
to help with what I call the "I-70 pull test".

Or win the PowerBall and buy a Turbo Cayenne...

==================================

L0nD0t.$t0we11

Roughly 1/15/04 18:59, Charles Stoyer's monkeys randomly typed:

> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.

...just in time to rebuild and hot rod.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).

? Have you checked the Security Chains fitment at their
website? http://www.scc-chain.com/

According them, you can run their chains on the Cherokee
and Grand Cherokee if you use these
tire sizes: [and stay under 30mph]
P215/75-15 P225/70-15 P245/70-15 P225/70-16 P225/75-15

>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP, newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.

If you can find a Cherokee in "engine rebuild" state, you can try
stroking it to 4.7, which will also raise the compression ratio a
bit, into the low 9's. [See HESCO or Clifford Performance websites
for details.] This may be enough to help you a bit at high altitude.

Or visit the Hesco website and drop a blower on a stroked engine
to help with what I call the "I-70 pull test".

Or win the PowerBall and buy a Turbo Cayenne...

==================================

L0nD0t.$t0we11

Roughly 1/15/04 18:59, Charles Stoyer's monkeys randomly typed:

> Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I can
> get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
>
> Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
> feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and poor
> towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> 180-190k miles on them.

...just in time to rebuild and hot rod.
>
> Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> clearance (leaf springs).

? Have you checked the Security Chains fitment at their
website? http://www.scc-chain.com/

According them, you can run their chains on the Cherokee
and Grand Cherokee if you use these
tire sizes: [and stay under 30mph]
P215/75-15 P225/70-15 P245/70-15 P225/70-16 P225/75-15

>
> Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
> good.
>
> I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP, newer
> (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.

If you can find a Cherokee in "engine rebuild" state, you can try
stroking it to 4.7, which will also raise the compression ratio a
bit, into the low 9's. [See HESCO or Clifford Performance websites
for details.] This may be enough to help you a bit at high altitude.

Or visit the Hesco website and drop a blower on a stroked engine
to help with what I call the "I-70 pull test".

Or win the PowerBall and buy a Turbo Cayenne...

==================================

charles stoyer

"bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:OMINb.41252$ZuL1.2266@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and
do
> the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
> suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.
>
> - 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in
the
> winter (246,000 km and running as new).

But are you driving at 7,000 to 11,000 feet where your 190 hp engine now has
150 to 125 hp?

> - Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
> - 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
> - Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
> pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle
it's
> way up the ramp/beach/stones.

Aside from the fact that I don't do auto, 5-speed should give me at least as
much power to the wheels. I am beginning to think that at 3,100 lbs or so, I
won't get any more power, not without buying something new.


>
>
> "Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
> news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
> can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
> poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
> newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
> about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
> with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

charles stoyer

"bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:OMINb.41252$ZuL1.2266@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and
do
> the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
> suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.
>
> - 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in
the
> winter (246,000 km and running as new).

But are you driving at 7,000 to 11,000 feet where your 190 hp engine now has
150 to 125 hp?

> - Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
> - 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
> - Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
> pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle
it's
> way up the ramp/beach/stones.

Aside from the fact that I don't do auto, 5-speed should give me at least as
much power to the wheels. I am beginning to think that at 3,100 lbs or so, I
won't get any more power, not without buying something new.


>
>
> "Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
> news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
> can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
> poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
> newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
> about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
> with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

charles stoyer

"bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:OMINb.41252$ZuL1.2266@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> Well ... I needed to pull a 3000 lb boat/trailer, do the daily drive, and
do
> the weekend trips. The '96 Cherokee 4.0 litre HO, 4spd auto, Command Trac
> suited perfectly ... a basic machine that best met my requirements.
>
> - 4.0 litre HO lots of power, regular gas ... and provides lotsa heat in
the
> winter (246,000 km and running as new).

But are you driving at 7,000 to 11,000 feet where your 190 hp engine now has
150 to 125 hp?

> - Cherokee ... 3100 lbs, 4 door ... comfortable ride.
> - 4 spd auto with lock up ... makes towing easy, relatively economical.
> - Command Trac ... gives me RWD for day to day, 4H for winter, 4L for
> pulling the boat outta the drink ... just put it in gear and it'll idle
it's
> way up the ramp/beach/stones.

Aside from the fact that I don't do auto, 5-speed should give me at least as
much power to the wheels. I am beginning to think that at 3,100 lbs or so, I
won't get any more power, not without buying something new.


>
>
> "Charles Stoyer" <cstoyer@interpex.com> wrote in message
> news:6KednSM-UMFFzprdRVn-hA@4dv.net...
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
> can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
> poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
> newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
> about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
> with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >
>
>