ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
- no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
probably due to the flooding...
so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
bennett

PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
guess...

 

Bob,

It sounds like you need to make a slight adjustment to the linkage or
replace it with a manual choke.

Manual chokes usually come with a bracket or can be placed in your dash for
a 'cleaner' install.


"bobvonbob" <bennettvonbennett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143658777.074130.321840@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
> completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
> notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
> start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
> her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
> CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
> - no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
> probably due to the flooding...
> so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
> off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
> whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
> could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
> for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
> like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
> opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
> at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
> as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
> kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
> to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
> etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
> like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
> bennett
>
> PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
> kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
> guess...
>

 

Bob,

It sounds like you need to make a slight adjustment to the linkage or
replace it with a manual choke.

Manual chokes usually come with a bracket or can be placed in your dash for
a 'cleaner' install.


"bobvonbob" <bennettvonbennett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143658777.074130.321840@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
> completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
> notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
> start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
> her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
> CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
> - no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
> probably due to the flooding...
> so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
> off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
> whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
> could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
> for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
> like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
> opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
> at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
> as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
> kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
> to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
> etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
> like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
> bennett
>
> PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
> kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
> guess...
>

 

Bob,

It sounds like you need to make a slight adjustment to the linkage or
replace it with a manual choke.

Manual chokes usually come with a bracket or can be placed in your dash for
a 'cleaner' install.


"bobvonbob" <bennettvonbennett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143658777.074130.321840@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
> completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
> notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
> start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
> her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
> CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
> - no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
> probably due to the flooding...
> so, having replaced the choke pull off, and the vacuum line to the pull
> off, should i consider replacing the choke thermostat sensor or
> whatever its called? it would make a nice paperweight i suppose, and i
> could put a manual choke in... would i have to drill a hole in my dash
> for that? could this POS be the source of the problem? it sure seems
> like it since the pull-off doesnt seem to be the one actuating the
> opening and closing of the plate when i am experiencing this problem...
> at least she appears to be drivable and will start 'reliably' as long
> as i have my little piece of wood handy(to prop open the plate). i feel
> kinda stupid tho and would like to nail this problem so i can move on
> to all the other issues... exhaust, valve cover leak, wheel alignment,
> etc etc etc - she's a greedy jealous little bitc... err thing - just
> like all my girlfriends, no wonder i'm already in love.
> bennett
>
> PS thanks esp to Mike and Roy for all their time and patience - and
> kudos to you Bob, got it (at least partially) right on the first
> guess...
>

 

billy ray did pass the time by typing:
> Bob,
>
> It sounds like you need to make a slight adjustment to the linkage or
> replace it with a manual choke.
>
> Manual chokes usually come with a bracket or can be placed in your dash for
> a 'cleaner' install.

There should be a little adjustment screw that sets how closed the plate
can get. If it's not adjusted to give a bit of clearance the butterfly can
stick shut and no spring can pull that open. Also check how smooth the bushings
are, if they are gummed up it can stick also.

(I'm working off foggy knowlege of the Rochester 4M4 quadrasuck..er quadrajet)


> "bobvonbob" wrote ...
>> ok. i replaced the pull off with the correct model - they seemed
>> completely identical to me but what do i know? - now when she is cold i
>> notice that the choke plate (butterfly) is partially open and she will
>> start up 90% of the time. HOWEVER - if she doesnt catch, i cannot get
>> her start as per earlier and upon inspection the choke plate is ALWAYS
>> CLOSED. if i then use something to physically hold the choke plate open
>> - no problem, she will start with a little rough idle for 1-3 seconds
>> probably due to the flooding...