6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
10-15-2003, 06:51 PM
#51
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that "earlier
> production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my CJ
> weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that "earlier
> production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my CJ
> weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 06:51 PM
#52
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that "earlier
> production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my CJ
> weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that "earlier
> production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my CJ
> weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
>
> JimG
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:04 PM
#53
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Nothing more that four 35" BFG's and a Warn winch (can't remember if I had
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:04 PM
#54
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Nothing more that four 35" BFG's and a Warn winch (can't remember if I had
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:04 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
Nothing more that four 35" BFG's and a Warn winch (can't remember if I had
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
my hard top and doors). We actually weighed one day at a rock quarry.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DCF72.E06C8ECF@***.net...
> You had a pig for a Civilian Jeep. What where you carrying?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand your question Bill. Are you saying that
"earlier
> > production year" models are 1/3 the weight of a Rubicon? Lets see... my
CJ
> > weighs 3400 lbs, so a Rubicon weighs over 10,000 lbs?
> >
> > JimG
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:06 PM
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
You must have more skill and guts than the young TJ owners.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:06 PM
#57
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
You must have more skill and guts than the young TJ owners.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:06 PM
#58
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
You must have more skill and guts than the young TJ owners.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8DC6BB.9ABBDD27@sympatico.ca...
> Yup, I am going to mostly agree too....
>
> My CJ7 with stock open diffs is always the one the TJ's follow to see if
> they can get where I am at. Most of my photo albums are of newer Jeeps
> trying and trying and... to get up or over to where I be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> > that enough of an explanation?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:29 PM
#59
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
This is pasted from the Wrangler page off of the Jeep website:
Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
http://tinyurl.com/r353
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@***.net...
> How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> that enough of an explanation?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
http://tinyurl.com/r353
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@***.net...
> How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> that enough of an explanation?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
10-15-2003, 07:29 PM
#60
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Re: 6 cyl. YJ or 4 cyl. TJ?????????
This is pasted from the Wrangler page off of the Jeep website:
Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
http://tinyurl.com/r353
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@***.net...
> How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> that enough of an explanation?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans - 3268 lb
So I guess a "real" Jeep must weight about 1100 pounds?
And since weight is the only performance factor, I have found the ultimate
Jeep for anyone that thinks so silly:
It's even got dual batteries and it is painted like a "real" Jeep.
http://tinyurl.com/r353
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DC25A.BE40D2FE@***.net...
> How would your Rubicon perform at about one third it's weight, is
> that enough of an explanation?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yea... please explain! I would love to have a stock Rubicon for the
trail!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R