"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:43:45 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
> <beerman@yahoo.com> shared the following:
>
> >Why would you want a 150hp V8 that weighs something like 300 lbs, when
you
> >can have a 147 hp that weighs in at half that?
>
> Not that I want to do it anytime soon, but I'm sure the V8 would be
> easier to tweak for more power than an I6. Let's not start the
> "substitute for cubic inches" battle again, please. Also, the V8 has
> a "sound" to its exhaust that a 6 will never be able to match.
>
> > I just do not get your
> >infatuation with the big old V8 motors used in a Jeep, the newer,
lighter,
> >and smaller motors today produce more power, and the torque is just off
of
> >idle where you want it for offroading, instead of half way up the RPM
scale
> >where you seldom venture into.
> >
> >Don't get me wrong, there are great places to have a V8 motor, but Real
> >Jeeps don't need one.
>
> I'm sure not everyone shares that opinion or the swaps to V8s wouldn't
> be so common.
>
> > Put a V8 in my Mustang or Camaro where I can open it
> >up and use the power, but get the damn thing out of my Jeep where all I
want
> >is to crawl over rocks about the sixe of my Mustang of Camaro. Now that I
> >have said that, the 5.9L V8 from a Durango sounds kinda cool in a TJ ...
>
> You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. ;-)
>

Where I wheel, I see very few V8 motors in a Jeep, and the vast majority of
swaps are the result of blown motors and other such problems. If the motor
is toast, and it costs $750 to rebuild, or $1000 to replace with a V8, then
the V8 begins to make sense. When this happens, the V8 that goes in most
often, for reasons I don't completely understand, seems to be the Ford 5.0L.
The old AMC 304 gets built and rebuilt, but it is seldom the swap-of-choice
because the current V8s are much stronger.

Another improvement for a Jeep TJ or YJ is the GM 4.3L V6 from the S10 or
S15 trucks. This motor creates very impressive torque numbers at low speeds,
and has more than enough horsepower to drag the whole mess down the freeway
at a very respectible clip.

 

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:43:45 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
> <beerman@yahoo.com> shared the following:
>
> >Why would you want a 150hp V8 that weighs something like 300 lbs, when
you
> >can have a 147 hp that weighs in at half that?
>
> Not that I want to do it anytime soon, but I'm sure the V8 would be
> easier to tweak for more power than an I6. Let's not start the
> "substitute for cubic inches" battle again, please. Also, the V8 has
> a "sound" to its exhaust that a 6 will never be able to match.
>
> > I just do not get your
> >infatuation with the big old V8 motors used in a Jeep, the newer,
lighter,
> >and smaller motors today produce more power, and the torque is just off
of
> >idle where you want it for offroading, instead of half way up the RPM
scale
> >where you seldom venture into.
> >
> >Don't get me wrong, there are great places to have a V8 motor, but Real
> >Jeeps don't need one.
>
> I'm sure not everyone shares that opinion or the swaps to V8s wouldn't
> be so common.
>
> > Put a V8 in my Mustang or Camaro where I can open it
> >up and use the power, but get the damn thing out of my Jeep where all I
want
> >is to crawl over rocks about the sixe of my Mustang of Camaro. Now that I
> >have said that, the 5.9L V8 from a Durango sounds kinda cool in a TJ ...
>
> You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. ;-)
>

Where I wheel, I see very few V8 motors in a Jeep, and the vast majority of
swaps are the result of blown motors and other such problems. If the motor
is toast, and it costs $750 to rebuild, or $1000 to replace with a V8, then
the V8 begins to make sense. When this happens, the V8 that goes in most
often, for reasons I don't completely understand, seems to be the Ford 5.0L.
The old AMC 304 gets built and rebuilt, but it is seldom the swap-of-choice
because the current V8s are much stronger.

Another improvement for a Jeep TJ or YJ is the GM 4.3L V6 from the S10 or
S15 trucks. This motor creates very impressive torque numbers at low speeds,
and has more than enough horsepower to drag the whole mess down the freeway
at a very respectible clip.

 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> No this is he: http://www.----------.com/my1jeep.jpg

lol......that picture reminds me of this new h2 commercial.
http://www.uemedia.com/artman/upload...nethummer4.mov

actually an awesome commercial, even if for a poor product.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8EFA42.538E1D2D@***.net...
> No this is he: http://www.----------.com/my1jeep.jpg

lol......that picture reminds me of this new h2 commercial.
http://www.uemedia.com/artman/upload...nethummer4.mov

actually an awesome commercial, even if for a poor product.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8EFA42.538E1D2D@***.net...
> No this is he: http://www.----------.com/my1jeep.jpg

lol......that picture reminds me of this new h2 commercial.
http://www.uemedia.com/artman/upload...nethummer4.mov

actually an awesome commercial, even if for a poor product.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

:-P

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ydGdnRV5tepQJhOiRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Comments below...
> >
> > --
> > Jim
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310160610.1c931a23@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier
> the
> > > > > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
> > > >
> > > > please explain.
> > >
> > > Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:
> >
> > I'm not sure that's where these came from:
>
>
> Son of a Bitch!
>
> Coffee in my keyboard, again. Thanks alot, Jim.
>
>
>
>

 

:-P

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ydGdnRV5tepQJhOiRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Comments below...
> >
> > --
> > Jim
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310160610.1c931a23@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier
> the
> > > > > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
> > > >
> > > > please explain.
> > >
> > > Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:
> >
> > I'm not sure that's where these came from:
>
>
> Son of a Bitch!
>
> Coffee in my keyboard, again. Thanks alot, Jim.
>
>
>
>

 

:-P

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ydGdnRV5tepQJhOiRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Comments below...
> >
> > --
> > Jim
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310160610.1c931a23@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > Generally, when talking about stock unmodified jeeps, the earlier
> the
> > > > > production year, the more suitable for off-roading.
> > > >
> > > > please explain.
> > >
> > > Well, just to name a few, off the top of my head:
> >
> > I'm not sure that's where these came from:
>
>
> Son of a Bitch!
>
> Coffee in my keyboard, again. Thanks alot, Jim.
>
>
>
>

 

In article <3F8EF426.253A65B6@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:

> I guess Kaiser Jeep's M-151, (the sole owner of Jeep '53-'70) that
>used four wheel independent suspension, doesn't count:
>http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m151.php3 and:
>http://www.off-road.com/~early/m151.html

I was under the impression Ford designed and built those.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

In article <3F8EF426.253A65B6@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:

> I guess Kaiser Jeep's M-151, (the sole owner of Jeep '53-'70) that
>used four wheel independent suspension, doesn't count:
>http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m151.php3 and:
>http://www.off-road.com/~early/m151.html

I was under the impression Ford designed and built those.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html