4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
06-20-2004, 11:24 PM
#61
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Just another luxury that is gone. I bet most here would not know
> what a hardtop convertible is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
same time. Pity.
Regards,
DAve
> Just another luxury that is gone. I bet most here would not know
> what a hardtop convertible is.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
same time. Pity.
Regards,
DAve
06-21-2004, 02:23 AM
#62
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
06-21-2004, 02:23 AM
#63
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
06-21-2004, 02:23 AM
#64
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
06-21-2004, 02:23 AM
#65
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
hardtop convertible.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Oops, at first I thought you were talking about 4 door hardtops. Hardtop
> convertible would be like a Ford Skyliner, right?
>
> If so, those were pretty rare. 4 door hardtops, where there is no B
> pilar between the front and back doors so that when you roll down the
> windows, there is nothing there were rather popular in the late 1950s
> through the last of the big cars (say 1975).
>
> Windwings on the other hand were once universal. They disappeared as AC
> became the norm and cheapness, light weight and fuel economy became the
> rule of the day. Underdash fresh air vents (down by your left foot,
> right foot for the passenger) had been universal and went away about the
> same time. Pity.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
06-21-2004, 03:37 AM
#66
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Someone else that remembers:
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-21-2004, 03:37 AM
#67
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Someone else that remembers:
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-21-2004, 03:37 AM
#68
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Someone else that remembers:
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-21-2004, 03:37 AM
#69
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Someone else that remembers:
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://ca.geocities.com/rfhowells/nhpfiles/hardtops.htm
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm talking before retractable, the top didn't come off yet
> because the side windows rolled down without a pillar, it was call a
> hardtop convertible.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-21-2004, 10:50 AM
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Re: 4WD (Cherokee?) recommendations please
Mine leak. I suppose I should make more of an effort to appreciate the
subtle elegance of cracking the 'wind wings' as opposed to just hanging
my arm out the window like a yahoo, but I can't help but feel that its
just another gadget that's prone to failure. Less is best.
1990 Cherokee TSB #235890 Vent Window - Water Leaks
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/900417D4.html
Steve
DaveW wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
>> Monte Castleman wrote:
>>
>>> With the newer ones, they took away the swing open vent windows
>>
>> And a good thing they did. Those vent windows leak on the front
>> corner. I think there was a service bulletin on it.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Not a good thing they did. The fact that the Cherokee was one of the
> last vehicles built with wind wings is one of the primary reasons I
> bought one. Unfortunately, we now have an entire generation that has
> grown up without these essential ventilation devices. Pity. On any day
> with a temperature between 50 and 80 degrees F, you don't know what you
> are missing!
>
> They made cars with them for 40+ years and leakage was not generally a
> problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
subtle elegance of cracking the 'wind wings' as opposed to just hanging
my arm out the window like a yahoo, but I can't help but feel that its
just another gadget that's prone to failure. Less is best.
1990 Cherokee TSB #235890 Vent Window - Water Leaks
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04/900417D4.html
Steve
DaveW wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
>> Monte Castleman wrote:
>>
>>> With the newer ones, they took away the swing open vent windows
>>
>> And a good thing they did. Those vent windows leak on the front
>> corner. I think there was a service bulletin on it.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Not a good thing they did. The fact that the Cherokee was one of the
> last vehicles built with wind wings is one of the primary reasons I
> bought one. Unfortunately, we now have an entire generation that has
> grown up without these essential ventilation devices. Pity. On any day
> with a temperature between 50 and 80 degrees F, you don't know what you
> are missing!
>
> They made cars with them for 40+ years and leakage was not generally a
> problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve