4.2L running like a bag of crap
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> normal.
>
> It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> canister that cause the same trouble.
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
>> > too rich.
>> >
>> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
>> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> > torch tips.
>> >
>> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
>> >> has
>> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >>
>> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
>> >> but
>> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> year
>> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
>> >> weird
>> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >>
>> >> any help is appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
Full tank?
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
Full tank?
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
Full tank?
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
Full tank?
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a parking
> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few seconds..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
> > normal.
> >
> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line. Then
> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
> > canister that cause the same trouble.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts like
> >> > too rich.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool used
> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
> >> > torch tips.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb) it
> >> >> has
> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't bad
> >> >> but
> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
> >> >> year
> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
> >> >> seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just seems
> >> >> weird
> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
> >> >>
> >> >> any help is appreciated
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
3 quarters full
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
3 quarters full
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
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Re: 4.2L running like a bag of crap
3 quarters full
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42DD4C46.ADC68D6C@sympatico.ca...
> Full tank?
>
> Mike
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> another symptom I just encountered, I honked on it coming out of a
>> parking
>> lot while grabbing lunch and smelled raw fuel really bad for a few
>> seconds..
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42DD3C15.55D76C00@sympatico.ca...
>> > No, is only does it on the idle circuit, once up to speed it runs
>> > normal.
>> >
>> > It is from chunks of crud usually found hiding in the steel gas line
>> > between the filter and carb. No one remembers to clean this line.
>> > Then
>> > if you run out of gas, it can suck black chunks from the charcoal
>> > canister that cause the same trouble.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when a vehicle runs lean does temp go up? Mine is still very normal
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:42DD25D7.FB13C2B5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > 99% of the time it is the other way, running too lean which acts
>> >> > like
>> >> > too rich.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a good link to the test and likely fix for it. The tool
>> >> > used
>> >> > can be obtained at any welding supply shop, it is used for cleaning
>> >> > torch tips.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 4.2L with a brand new carb(nutters done) and header (feb)
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> run SWEET up until a month ago, now it's running like crap...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's running really rich, that's the main symptom. Mileage isn't
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it's not as good as it was. plugs have about 10K, wires are about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> old. it doesn't sputter or hesitate and still has great power. It
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run closer to normal when it's at operating temp, which makes
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be as simple as adjusting the fuel/air mixture? Just
>> >> >> seems
>> >> >> weird
>> >> >> that "bang" it's running really rich
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any help is appreciated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jason
