4.2 tbi
02-01-2006, 07:54 PM
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4.2 tbi
i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
any suggestions or tips?
thanks, jeff
on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
any suggestions or tips?
thanks, jeff
02-04-2006, 09:42 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-04-2006, 09:42 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-04-2006, 09:42 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell) but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-04-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-04-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-04-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
sr4crapped out on me)
but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
Jeff wrote:
> i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> but
> on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> reprogrammed
> prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> any suggestions or tips?
> thanks, jeff
A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2006, 09:40 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Too bad you have to pay big in gas mileage for that 'reliability'....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2006, 09:40 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Too bad you have to pay big in gas mileage for that 'reliability'....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2006, 09:40 AM
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Re: 4.2 tbi
Too bad you have to pay big in gas mileage for that 'reliability'....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff wrote:
>
> yes ultimately a 4.0 head would be awsome!! but like i said i'm going for
> low buck right now.. (still need a tranny and adapter for a t18 swap, damn
> sr4crapped out on me)
> but i have found this if anyone is looking for the info-
> http://www.bustedjeep.com/projects/junkyardtbi.asp
> couple hundred bucks for fi reliability ain't bad.
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:AuKdnW-McYTEIHnenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Jeff wrote:
> > i'm trying to find info on setting up a 4.2 with tbi (similar to howell)
> > but
> > on a budget. so far i need a 86-91 4.3 v6 tbi, the ecm, howell
> > reprogrammed
> > prom, in tank fuel pump (tank from a s-10 blazer?), and wire it all up!!
> > any suggestions or tips?
> > thanks, jeff
>
> A 4.0 head conversion to take advantage of that improved fuel delivery.
>
> I had my intake and Carter off preparing for a swap to TBI and noticed
> how tired and worn my valve guide seals are... I also happened to know
> of a bargain on a rebuilt 4.0 head (less than 200) so I'm in the middle
> of converting right now... just waiting on new crane lifters to get to
> me (might as well replace the 150,000 mile old ones while I'm in there).
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein