4.0L overheating
01-24-2004, 09:24 PM
#11
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Re: 4.0L overheating
That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
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"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
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"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-24-2004, 09:24 PM
#12
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Re: 4.0L overheating
That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-24-2004, 09:24 PM
#13
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Re: 4.0L overheating
That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>
> --
> Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
> mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-24-2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: 4.0L overheating
Ryan did pass the time by typing:
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
01-24-2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: 4.0L overheating
Ryan did pass the time by typing:
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
01-24-2004, 09:32 PM
#16
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Re: 4.0L overheating
Ryan did pass the time by typing:
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
> Actually, I just got back from Advance Auto and I may have found the
> problem. It's related to your suggestion.
>
> When I put the engine in it didn't have a temp sender, so I went to
> AutoZone and bought one for a 96 ZJ. However, I was at Advance Auto 15
> minutes ago and just for kicks asked how much a temp sender was. They
> had two different models - one was if you had a warning light and the
> other was if you had a gauge!! I'm thinking that maybe they are
> calibrated differently and that AutoZone may have given me the wrong
> one. I hope it's that simple.
Hard to say. It's entirely possible they had a change in the production run.
Warning light sensors are usually switch type that open/close at the overtemp
setting. Similar to the oil level sender, either "good" or "not good".
> Now that I think about it, I should have mentioned that my computer and
> gauges are from a 93 Wrangler (yes, very Frankenstein I know). Should I
> have bought the temp sender for a 96 ZJ (what the engine is from) or a
> 93 YJ (what the comp/gauges are from)?
I'd probably check both. If they use the same crossreference part then
either would work, otherwise use the sensor made for the computer.
> Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
> ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
> that I don't know about?
I only know of two temp senders, one is the engine temp and the other
is the MAT (Manifold Air Temp) sensor.
--
DougW
01-24-2004, 09:50 PM
#17
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Re: 4.0L overheating
I don't think I'm turning the pump backwards because I bought the belt
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-24-2004, 09:50 PM
#18
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Re: 4.0L overheating
I don't think I'm turning the pump backwards because I bought the belt
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-24-2004, 09:50 PM
#19
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Re: 4.0L overheating
I don't think I'm turning the pump backwards because I bought the belt
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
for the 96 ZJ. Plus, all the grooved pullies are touching the grooved
ide of the belt. I'll doublecheck it though. Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's my guess, Ryan's using his YJ's "V" belt on a reverse pump.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" wrote:
>
>> ? Serpentine belt turning the water pump bassackwards ?
>>
>>--
>>Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
>>mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...
01-25-2004, 06:05 AM
#20
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Re: 4.0L overheating
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:07:17 GMT, Ryan <no.email@please> wrote:
>Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
>ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
>that I don't know about?
>
My wife's '93 XJ 4.0 has two temp senders. One in the t/stat housing
with 2 wires, used by the PCM, and another, in the back corner of the
head behind the intake, with one wire used for the gauge on the dash.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>Also, why is Advance Auto listing two different temp senders for a 96
>ZJ? Is there another sender besides the one on the head by the firewall
>that I don't know about?
>
My wife's '93 XJ 4.0 has two temp senders. One in the t/stat housing
with 2 wires, used by the PCM, and another, in the back corner of the
head behind the intake, with one wire used for the gauge on the dash.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
