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Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
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