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4.0 manifold crack !
have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange.
need some ideas- tips -recommendations weld it ? aftermarket ? header ? what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? again thanks casca |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Header IMO.... good excuse to 'upgrade'. You could go with the new
type of exhaust manifold I guess, but since you're taking in the expense anyway, I say upgrade. Same thing happened to me... I found a Thorley header on closeout for a helluva price, and went that route. I've talked to several who have gone the 'weld it' route and it lasted maybe a year. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:41:57 -0500, "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote: >have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > >need some ideas- tips -recommendations > >weld it ? >aftermarket ? >header ? > >what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > >again thanks >casca > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Header IMO.... good excuse to 'upgrade'. You could go with the new
type of exhaust manifold I guess, but since you're taking in the expense anyway, I say upgrade. Same thing happened to me... I found a Thorley header on closeout for a helluva price, and went that route. I've talked to several who have gone the 'weld it' route and it lasted maybe a year. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:41:57 -0500, "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote: >have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > >need some ideas- tips -recommendations > >weld it ? >aftermarket ? >header ? > >what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > >again thanks >casca > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Header IMO.... good excuse to 'upgrade'. You could go with the new
type of exhaust manifold I guess, but since you're taking in the expense anyway, I say upgrade. Same thing happened to me... I found a Thorley header on closeout for a helluva price, and went that route. I've talked to several who have gone the 'weld it' route and it lasted maybe a year. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:41:57 -0500, "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote: >have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > >need some ideas- tips -recommendations > >weld it ? >aftermarket ? >header ? > >what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > >again thanks >casca > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Header IMO.... good excuse to 'upgrade'. You could go with the new
type of exhaust manifold I guess, but since you're taking in the expense anyway, I say upgrade. Same thing happened to me... I found a Thorley header on closeout for a helluva price, and went that route. I've talked to several who have gone the 'weld it' route and it lasted maybe a year. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:41:57 -0500, "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote: >have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > >need some ideas- tips -recommendations > >weld it ? >aftermarket ? >header ? > >what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > >again thanks >casca > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
casca did pass the time by typing:
> have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? It will eventually crack again. > aftermarket ? There are no OEM aftermarket, just dealer like www.buymopar.com or www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/ > header ? That was my choice. Banks, Gibson, etc. Watch for the fit, only a few are "direct replacement" the others require fabrication of a new downpipe or replacement to the cat. > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? I went with the Banks header. Had a little problem with the motor mount though. Nothing the ol angle grinder couldn't fix. http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/banks/ Still need to do a better write-up, that's just some images I did for the folks at Banks so they could look at how it fit. Also look into http://www.gtelaw.com/jeepclassactio...formation.html There is a class action lawsuit against DC for this particular issue. Might want to see what kind of a deal Jeep will cut you on replacement. -- DougW |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
casca did pass the time by typing:
> have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? It will eventually crack again. > aftermarket ? There are no OEM aftermarket, just dealer like www.buymopar.com or www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/ > header ? That was my choice. Banks, Gibson, etc. Watch for the fit, only a few are "direct replacement" the others require fabrication of a new downpipe or replacement to the cat. > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? I went with the Banks header. Had a little problem with the motor mount though. Nothing the ol angle grinder couldn't fix. http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/banks/ Still need to do a better write-up, that's just some images I did for the folks at Banks so they could look at how it fit. Also look into http://www.gtelaw.com/jeepclassactio...formation.html There is a class action lawsuit against DC for this particular issue. Might want to see what kind of a deal Jeep will cut you on replacement. -- DougW |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
casca did pass the time by typing:
> have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? It will eventually crack again. > aftermarket ? There are no OEM aftermarket, just dealer like www.buymopar.com or www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/ > header ? That was my choice. Banks, Gibson, etc. Watch for the fit, only a few are "direct replacement" the others require fabrication of a new downpipe or replacement to the cat. > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? I went with the Banks header. Had a little problem with the motor mount though. Nothing the ol angle grinder couldn't fix. http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/banks/ Still need to do a better write-up, that's just some images I did for the folks at Banks so they could look at how it fit. Also look into http://www.gtelaw.com/jeepclassactio...formation.html There is a class action lawsuit against DC for this particular issue. Might want to see what kind of a deal Jeep will cut you on replacement. -- DougW |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
casca did pass the time by typing:
> have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? It will eventually crack again. > aftermarket ? There are no OEM aftermarket, just dealer like www.buymopar.com or www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/ > header ? That was my choice. Banks, Gibson, etc. Watch for the fit, only a few are "direct replacement" the others require fabrication of a new downpipe or replacement to the cat. > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? I went with the Banks header. Had a little problem with the motor mount though. Nothing the ol angle grinder couldn't fix. http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/banks/ Still need to do a better write-up, that's just some images I did for the folks at Banks so they could look at how it fit. Also look into http://www.gtelaw.com/jeepclassactio...formation.html There is a class action lawsuit against DC for this particular issue. Might want to see what kind of a deal Jeep will cut you on replacement. -- DougW |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold
cracks and it applies to your '97. see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 go get paid. -- Nathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? > aftermarket ? > header ? > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > again thanks > casca > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold
cracks and it applies to your '97. see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 go get paid. -- Nathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? > aftermarket ? > header ? > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > again thanks > casca > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold
cracks and it applies to your '97. see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 go get paid. -- Nathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? > aftermarket ? > header ? > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > again thanks > casca > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold
cracks and it applies to your '97. see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 go get paid. -- Nathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > weld it ? > aftermarket ? > header ? > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > again thanks > casca > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
I put a Borla header on a friend's '97 that had cracked. Installation was
about what i expected, took close to six hours. Only problem i had was i didn't torque the manifold bolts enough, had an incredibly high idle when i started it. Sounded better than stock (NO MORE TICKING!!!!) and gave some pep to the low-end. Cost more than the other headers, but i only wanted to do the job once. Don W '82 CJ8 Scrambler AMC 360 T/F 727 Dana 300 One-piece model 20 rear Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker 2" shackle lift/reversal 2" lift springs of unknown origin 33" Mickey's And it finally runs!!!!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
I put a Borla header on a friend's '97 that had cracked. Installation was
about what i expected, took close to six hours. Only problem i had was i didn't torque the manifold bolts enough, had an incredibly high idle when i started it. Sounded better than stock (NO MORE TICKING!!!!) and gave some pep to the low-end. Cost more than the other headers, but i only wanted to do the job once. Don W '82 CJ8 Scrambler AMC 360 T/F 727 Dana 300 One-piece model 20 rear Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker 2" shackle lift/reversal 2" lift springs of unknown origin 33" Mickey's And it finally runs!!!!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
I put a Borla header on a friend's '97 that had cracked. Installation was
about what i expected, took close to six hours. Only problem i had was i didn't torque the manifold bolts enough, had an incredibly high idle when i started it. Sounded better than stock (NO MORE TICKING!!!!) and gave some pep to the low-end. Cost more than the other headers, but i only wanted to do the job once. Don W '82 CJ8 Scrambler AMC 360 T/F 727 Dana 300 One-piece model 20 rear Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker 2" shackle lift/reversal 2" lift springs of unknown origin 33" Mickey's And it finally runs!!!!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
I put a Borla header on a friend's '97 that had cracked. Installation was
about what i expected, took close to six hours. Only problem i had was i didn't torque the manifold bolts enough, had an incredibly high idle when i started it. Sounded better than stock (NO MORE TICKING!!!!) and gave some pep to the low-end. Cost more than the other headers, but i only wanted to do the job once. Don W '82 CJ8 Scrambler AMC 360 T/F 727 Dana 300 One-piece model 20 rear Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker 2" shackle lift/reversal 2" lift springs of unknown origin 33" Mickey's And it finally runs!!!!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE
MESS!! "Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message news:cTDkc.134957$04.3041247@twister.southeast.rr. com... > be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold > cracks and it applies to your '97. see > http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 > > go get paid. > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > http://7SlotGrille.com > > "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed > > > "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message > news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > > > weld it ? > > aftermarket ? > > header ? > > > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > > > again thanks > > casca > > > > > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE
MESS!! "Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message news:cTDkc.134957$04.3041247@twister.southeast.rr. com... > be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold > cracks and it applies to your '97. see > http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 > > go get paid. > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > http://7SlotGrille.com > > "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed > > > "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message > news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > > > weld it ? > > aftermarket ? > > header ? > > > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > > > again thanks > > casca > > > > > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE
MESS!! "Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message news:cTDkc.134957$04.3041247@twister.southeast.rr. com... > be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold > cracks and it applies to your '97. see > http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 > > go get paid. > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > http://7SlotGrille.com > > "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed > > > "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message > news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > > > weld it ? > > aftermarket ? > > header ? > > > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > > > again thanks > > casca > > > > > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE
MESS!! "Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message news:cTDkc.134957$04.3041247@twister.southeast.rr. com... > be aware there is a class action suit going on right now for tj manifold > cracks and it applies to your '97. see > http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1217 > > go get paid. > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > http://7SlotGrille.com > > "....a talking bird is a freak" - Mr. Ed > > > "casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message > news:1095vsmj4o3qcc8@corp.supernews.com... > > have a 97 TJ with 4.0 a crack above the flange. > > > > need some ideas- tips -recommendations > > > > weld it ? > > aftermarket ? > > header ? > > > > what have some of you done, did it work and for how long did it last ? > > > > again thanks > > casca > > > > > > |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ casca wrote: > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ casca wrote: > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ casca wrote: > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ casca wrote: > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance...
But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might be a good time?? Thank you everyone! Jeff "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > casca wrote: > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance...
But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might be a good time?? Thank you everyone! Jeff "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > casca wrote: > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance...
But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might be a good time?? Thank you everyone! Jeff "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > casca wrote: > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance...
But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might be a good time?? Thank you everyone! Jeff "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > casca wrote: > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX THE > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Jeff did pass the time by typing:
> OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? yep. > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... The welds just don't hold for very long, usually they just crack right next to the new weld. I have yet to hear of any reworked header lasting. > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? Well, getting at the header isn't hard if you have a good selection of extensions and a swivel or two. I got the header off on mine with just a wrench. (from a prior email to the ZJ list digest) There is lots of room but watch the torque spec. It's 24 ft.lbs on all but the outer two bolts that get 17. Too much out there and you risk distorting the block, it's thin at those spots. Used a squirt of PB blaster on the bolts before removing but even then it only took a box wrench to get them out. You don't even have to remove the fuel rail if your careful. Order and torque spec 9 8 3 10 11 6 4 2 1 5 7 1-5 24 ft.lbs 6-7 17 ft.lbs 8-11 24 ft.lbs with the banks your not going to get a torque wrench on #1 no matter how hard you try. I used a box wrench and reached in between the header and block. If you do pull the rail, replace the injector O rings, NAPA has the parts (three bags) for about 9$. A little spit on the rings helps them slide into the head and the rail. Fit to the rail first then evenly work the assembly into the intake manifold. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Jeff wrote: > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies ... > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > be a good time?? > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > THE > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
Re: 4.0 manifold crack !
OK, now you got me wondering, would the header be that much better than the
stock stainless manifold you sent a link for? ( which they plenty of in stock- we sell plenty of those was the reply) Also, my used warranty may cover this!! Now here is the kicker - may have to trailer it to the dealer. BECAUSE IF I DRIVE IT IN * IT WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY * OVER IN MILEAGE* TALK ABOUT A CLOSE CALL. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4093E57E.125012D@cox.net... > Performance headers: http://www.----------.com/jeephooker.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Jeff wrote: > > > > OK.... again I'm gonna ask you to excuse my mechanical ignorance... > > But I'm learning from everything I ask you good ppl..... > > exhaust manifold and header= same thing????? > > I ask 'cause my '95 ZJ cracked last year and was welded is getting loud > > again and not sure I'll get by my this years inspection the way it is.... > > I'm planning to beef the ZJ up...lift,tires and a few other lil' goodies .... > > K&N, new exhaust (maybe performance) etc.... so an upgrade to header might > > be a good time?? > > > > Thank you everyone! Jeff > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:40931A9A.FC228B19@cox.net... > > > http://www.1aauto.com/1A/ExhaustMani...P1390094/24498 > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > casca wrote: > > > > > > > > THANKS A $ 1,000,000 ENROLLED IN CLASS ACTION SUIT. BUT STILL GOT TO FIX > > THE > > > > MESS!! |
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