4.0?!?!
07-18-2003, 04:27 PM
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Re: 4.0?!?!
120 in a ford? I didn't know tow trucks went that fast!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, it takes a Ford of Chevy to do a 120 Miles per hours.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > Pretty self-explanatory...really.
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, it takes a Ford of Chevy to do a 120 Miles per hours.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > Pretty self-explanatory...really.
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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07-18-2003, 05:53 PM
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Chris wrote:
> I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> 3rd..
>
> Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> suck that bad on the highway??
No but the aerodynamics of the Wrangler do. You're essentially pushing a
brick through the air and it's not very efficient. Your power is extremely
adversely effected the faster you go. This isn't a curvy aerodynamic
Corvette, you know...
> I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> 3rd..
>
> Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> suck that bad on the highway??
No but the aerodynamics of the Wrangler do. You're essentially pushing a
brick through the air and it's not very efficient. Your power is extremely
adversely effected the faster you go. This isn't a curvy aerodynamic
Corvette, you know...
07-19-2003, 01:55 AM
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"Thomas Waldron" wrote ...
> oh, I bet I can eek my Porsche up to 120... :)
Even if you had a 914 or 924, you probably could... I had an '89 944
turbo... Topped out at 164... Got a ticket for 154 in a 55 (I was either
still winding though the gears or I had slowed for a curve)... Hard to
outrun the radio though... $200 + court costs... For some reason, the judge
got really pissed when I asked if I could take defensive driving...
<evil-grin>
> oh, I bet I can eek my Porsche up to 120... :)
Even if you had a 914 or 924, you probably could... I had an '89 944
turbo... Topped out at 164... Got a ticket for 154 in a 55 (I was either
still winding though the gears or I had slowed for a curve)... Hard to
outrun the radio though... $200 + court costs... For some reason, the judge
got really pissed when I asked if I could take defensive driving...
<evil-grin>
07-19-2003, 07:29 AM
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:03:16 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:
>I suspect he has the dreaded 3.07 axle ratio and is simply up-shifting too
>soon. I got my four cylinder up to 85 once. Passed a CJ-7 too. ;o)
Nope 3.73's..
<enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:
>I suspect he has the dreaded 3.07 axle ratio and is simply up-shifting too
>soon. I got my four cylinder up to 85 once. Passed a CJ-7 too. ;o)
Nope 3.73's..
07-19-2003, 07:31 AM
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:05:57 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
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>Hi Chris,
> You do have the six cylinder, right? Because you're describing the
>four cylinder, with oversized tires.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Yep it's a 6.. You can't even get the 4 cylinder in the 2003 model
year here unless it's special ordered none of the dealerships
carried it...
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Chris,
> You do have the six cylinder, right? Because you're describing the
>four cylinder, with oversized tires.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Yep it's a 6.. You can't even get the 4 cylinder in the 2003 model
year here unless it's special ordered none of the dealerships
carried it...
07-19-2003, 07:38 AM
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>YOu didn't say which tires you were running, the complaint is common among
>tire sizes from about 33 and above, running stock gears.
3.73's with 225/75r15's.. I was planning on a future lift,
re-gearing and so forth -- but may be changing those plans
real quick if this is how gutless the 4.0/6 is..
I've owned lots of vehicles over the years and man -- this
thing doesn't seem much better off then the guttless 2.0/4
I had in an old truck years ago..
>tire sizes from about 33 and above, running stock gears.
3.73's with 225/75r15's.. I was planning on a future lift,
re-gearing and so forth -- but may be changing those plans
real quick if this is how gutless the 4.0/6 is..
I've owned lots of vehicles over the years and man -- this
thing doesn't seem much better off then the guttless 2.0/4
I had in an old truck years ago..
07-19-2003, 08:03 AM
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As some have said, it's the aero... I have a '98 4.0L, 235/75/R15, 5 speed
and run up to the PA mountains every other weekend or so... the trip is
through some fairly hilly country, with a couple of good climbs thrown in.
The Jeep is much better than my '87 Toyota 4Runner with the 2.4L, 4 banger,
but I still have to remind myself that 5th gear is a "cruising" gear, not
hill climbing gear. The thing will run 75 (120 or so km) all day on level
ground with light winds, but a head wind or a hill will make you work at it
some... a steady climb means 4th gear and 60mph (95 km) or so. Nature of the
beast. The engine is good and peppy, but the high gears are for mileage not
power. And basically, the thing has the drag coefficient of a large brick.
-----------------------------------
Mike Polo
mikepolo@communitytheater.org
Community Theater Green Room
http://www.communitytheater.org
"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
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> I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> 3rd..
>
> Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> suck that bad on the highway??
and run up to the PA mountains every other weekend or so... the trip is
through some fairly hilly country, with a couple of good climbs thrown in.
The Jeep is much better than my '87 Toyota 4Runner with the 2.4L, 4 banger,
but I still have to remind myself that 5th gear is a "cruising" gear, not
hill climbing gear. The thing will run 75 (120 or so km) all day on level
ground with light winds, but a head wind or a hill will make you work at it
some... a steady climb means 4th gear and 60mph (95 km) or so. Nature of the
beast. The engine is good and peppy, but the high gears are for mileage not
power. And basically, the thing has the drag coefficient of a large brick.
-----------------------------------
Mike Polo
mikepolo@communitytheater.org
Community Theater Green Room
http://www.communitytheater.org
"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
news:g9nehvkvvrlu8m8gsqa91fe1n4ao8b4aie@4ax.com...
> I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> 3rd..
>
> Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> suck that bad on the highway??
07-19-2003, 12:16 PM
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Re: 4.0?!?!
I usually put cruise control on my Sahara @ 80mph on the freeway & have no
problems.....
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Polo" <mikepolo@communitytheater.org> wrote in message
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> As some have said, it's the aero... I have a '98 4.0L, 235/75/R15, 5 speed
> and run up to the PA mountains every other weekend or so... the trip is
> through some fairly hilly country, with a couple of good climbs thrown in.
> The Jeep is much better than my '87 Toyota 4Runner with the 2.4L, 4
banger,
> but I still have to remind myself that 5th gear is a "cruising" gear, not
> hill climbing gear. The thing will run 75 (120 or so km) all day on level
> ground with light winds, but a head wind or a hill will make you work at
it
> some... a steady climb means 4th gear and 60mph (95 km) or so. Nature of
the
> beast. The engine is good and peppy, but the high gears are for mileage
not
> power. And basically, the thing has the drag coefficient of a large brick.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Polo
> mikepolo@communitytheater.org
> Community Theater Green Room
> http://www.communitytheater.org
>
>
> "Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
> news:g9nehvkvvrlu8m8gsqa91fe1n4ao8b4aie@4ax.com...
> > I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> > highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> > for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> > great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> > have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> > any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> > 3rd..
> >
> > Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> > suck that bad on the highway??
>
>
problems.....
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Polo" <mikepolo@communitytheater.org> wrote in message
news:usaSa.12832$7O.1151@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> As some have said, it's the aero... I have a '98 4.0L, 235/75/R15, 5 speed
> and run up to the PA mountains every other weekend or so... the trip is
> through some fairly hilly country, with a couple of good climbs thrown in.
> The Jeep is much better than my '87 Toyota 4Runner with the 2.4L, 4
banger,
> but I still have to remind myself that 5th gear is a "cruising" gear, not
> hill climbing gear. The thing will run 75 (120 or so km) all day on level
> ground with light winds, but a head wind or a hill will make you work at
it
> some... a steady climb means 4th gear and 60mph (95 km) or so. Nature of
the
> beast. The engine is good and peppy, but the high gears are for mileage
not
> power. And basically, the thing has the drag coefficient of a large brick.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Polo
> mikepolo@communitytheater.org
> Community Theater Green Room
> http://www.communitytheater.org
>
>
> "Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
> news:g9nehvkvvrlu8m8gsqa91fe1n4ao8b4aie@4ax.com...
> > I bought a 2003 TJ a few weeks back -- and have taken it out on the
> > highway a few times.. I have to say the 4.0 has lots of get up and go
> > for city driving -- but on the highway -- what happened?!?! It's
> > great up until 100Kms (65miles) ish but after that it seems to really
> > have problems -- it's a chore to keep it at 120 in 5th gear and come
> > any real hill it's pretty pethetic even gearing down to 4th or even
> > 3rd..
> >
> > Is it just my jeep or is this a common thing -- does this motor really
> > suck that bad on the highway??
>
>
07-19-2003, 01:42 PM
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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Thomas Waldron" wrote ...
>> oh, I bet I can eek my Porsche up to 120... :)
>
> Even if you had a 914 or 924, you probably could... I had an '89 944
> turbo... Topped out at 164... Got a ticket for 154 in a 55 (I was either
> still winding though the gears or I had slowed for a curve)... Hard to
> outrun the radio though... $200 + court costs... For some reason, the judge
> got really pissed when I asked if I could take defensive driving...
> <evil-grin>
Even the lowly 2.0 914 could easily cruise at 125. As for your
ticket, WHERE? In many states going more than 15 or 25 over the
limit was usually an instant take in, car and all, with instant
cell time for speeds over 100. [except for the two pockets of
sanity, Montana and Nevada]. And only a lousy $200?!?! I
got nailed for a measly 95 in a 55 in California and it ended
up costing about $775. Can I move to where you got this cheap
ticket?
> "Thomas Waldron" wrote ...
>> oh, I bet I can eek my Porsche up to 120... :)
>
> Even if you had a 914 or 924, you probably could... I had an '89 944
> turbo... Topped out at 164... Got a ticket for 154 in a 55 (I was either
> still winding though the gears or I had slowed for a curve)... Hard to
> outrun the radio though... $200 + court costs... For some reason, the judge
> got really pissed when I asked if I could take defensive driving...
> <evil-grin>
Even the lowly 2.0 914 could easily cruise at 125. As for your
ticket, WHERE? In many states going more than 15 or 25 over the
limit was usually an instant take in, car and all, with instant
cell time for speeds over 100. [except for the two pockets of
sanity, Montana and Nevada]. And only a lousy $200?!?! I
got nailed for a measly 95 in a 55 in California and it ended
up costing about $775. Can I move to where you got this cheap
ticket?