Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:42:45 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
>> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>>
>> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
>> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
>> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>>
>
> SHIFT PATTERN
> If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern
>
> 1 3 5
> 2 4 6 R

This one.


When I said "usual American 5-speed" I meant

1 3 5
2 4 R

which is what my Escort, F-150 and BroncoII all had and what my
brother's Subaru has as well as a former friend's Saab. I can't
recall seeing any other 5-speed pattern in the US.


While in Europe I saw a few 5-speeds with this shift pattern:

R 1 3 5
2 4

I don't know why they do that.


> The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire,

Oh, ok.

> which makes me wonder if it will be strong enough.

I hope it will be!

-D

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Rather be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:42:45 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
>> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>>
>> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
>> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
>> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>>
>
> SHIFT PATTERN
> If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern
>
> 1 3 5
> 2 4 6 R

This one.


When I said "usual American 5-speed" I meant

1 3 5
2 4 R

which is what my Escort, F-150 and BroncoII all had and what my
brother's Subaru has as well as a former friend's Saab. I can't
recall seeing any other 5-speed pattern in the US.


While in Europe I saw a few 5-speeds with this shift pattern:

R 1 3 5
2 4

I don't know why they do that.


> The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire,

Oh, ok.

> which makes me wonder if it will be strong enough.

I hope it will be!

-D

--
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28

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Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:42:45 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
>> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>>
>> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
>> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
>> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>>
>
> SHIFT PATTERN
> If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern
>
> 1 3 5
> 2 4 6 R

This one.


When I said "usual American 5-speed" I meant

1 3 5
2 4 R

which is what my Escort, F-150 and BroncoII all had and what my
brother's Subaru has as well as a former friend's Saab. I can't
recall seeing any other 5-speed pattern in the US.


While in Europe I saw a few 5-speeds with this shift pattern:

R 1 3 5
2 4

I don't know why they do that.


> The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire,

Oh, ok.

> which makes me wonder if it will be strong enough.

I hope it will be!

-D

--
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28

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Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:17:06 -0600, Larry Greenwood wrote:
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote:
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s.

> I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

I don't know. When did they start using coil springs?

It could also have to do with the shocks. The '01 had a box on the
back seat with shocks and some other misc. parts in it (including the
factory shift ****). It could be that the kid[1] who had it before
liked the stiffer ride so he changed the shocks accordingly. He also
had an aftermarket stereo and some live wires under the rear seat
where he probably had speakers before trading it in.

-D

[1] A reasonable assumption based on the parking sticker for a local
college on the windshield.

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Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:17:06 -0600, Larry Greenwood wrote:
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote:
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s.

> I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

I don't know. When did they start using coil springs?

It could also have to do with the shocks. The '01 had a box on the
back seat with shocks and some other misc. parts in it (including the
factory shift ****). It could be that the kid[1] who had it before
liked the stiffer ride so he changed the shocks accordingly. He also
had an aftermarket stereo and some live wires under the rear seat
where he probably had speakers before trading it in.

-D

[1] A reasonable assumption based on the parking sticker for a local
college on the windshield.

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Derrick Hudson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:17:06 -0600, Larry Greenwood wrote:
> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote:
>> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
>> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
>> > about them. Who's got one?
>>
>> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
>> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
>> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s.

> I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

I don't know. When did they start using coil springs?

It could also have to do with the shocks. The '01 had a box on the
back seat with shocks and some other misc. parts in it (including the
factory shift ****). It could be that the kid[1] who had it before
liked the stiffer ride so he changed the shocks accordingly. He also
had an aftermarket stereo and some live wires under the rear seat
where he probably had speakers before trading it in.

-D

[1] A reasonable assumption based on the parking sticker for a local
college on the windshield.

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Patrick

Some Audi and Volks are like this too....

R 1 3 5
2 4

Patrick

Some Audi and Volks are like this too....

R 1 3 5
2 4

Patrick

Some Audi and Volks are like this too....

R 1 3 5
2 4