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Jeff 11-21-2004 12:04 PM

2005 Wrangler
 
I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
about them. Who's got one?

Derrick Hudson 12-08-2004 01:30 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> about them. Who's got one?


The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.

FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.

-D

--
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but he who hates correction is stupid.
Proverbs 12:1

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Derrick Hudson 12-08-2004 01:30 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> about them. Who's got one?


The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.

FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.

-D

--
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but he who hates correction is stupid.
Proverbs 12:1

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Derrick Hudson 12-08-2004 01:30 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> about them. Who's got one?


The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.

FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.

-D

--
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but he who hates correction is stupid.
Proverbs 12:1

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Jeff Strickland 12-08-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 

"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>


SHIFT PATTERN
If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern

1 3 5
2 4 6 R

OR

R 1 3 5
2 4 6

I can't tell by the description you gave, what the pattern is, but I think
you said it is the first diagram.

The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire, which makes me wonder if
it will be strong enough. It is also used in the Libby, but that does not
calm my nerves very much, I see the offroading of the Libby to be closer to
that of the Crossfire than to the Wrangler. That is, I think the Wrangler is
generally a more capable platform for the very rough offroad routes whereas
the Libby not meant for the same kinds of extreme routes. I just have to
wonder if the 6 spd is going to work out well in the long run. I like the
features of the 6 spd, don't get me wrong. I just wonder if it is a giant
step backwards to the light weight transmissions of the early YJ, and away
from the mid-weight transmissions of the current TJ and the older CJ.






Jeff Strickland 12-08-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 

"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>


SHIFT PATTERN
If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern

1 3 5
2 4 6 R

OR

R 1 3 5
2 4 6

I can't tell by the description you gave, what the pattern is, but I think
you said it is the first diagram.

The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire, which makes me wonder if
it will be strong enough. It is also used in the Libby, but that does not
calm my nerves very much, I see the offroading of the Libby to be closer to
that of the Crossfire than to the Wrangler. That is, I think the Wrangler is
generally a more capable platform for the very rough offroad routes whereas
the Libby not meant for the same kinds of extreme routes. I just have to
wonder if the 6 spd is going to work out well in the long run. I like the
features of the 6 spd, don't get me wrong. I just wonder if it is a giant
step backwards to the light weight transmissions of the early YJ, and away
from the mid-weight transmissions of the current TJ and the older CJ.






Jeff Strickland 12-08-2004 02:42 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 

"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>


SHIFT PATTERN
If I was the engineer, I would make the pattern

1 3 5
2 4 6 R

OR

R 1 3 5
2 4 6

I can't tell by the description you gave, what the pattern is, but I think
you said it is the first diagram.

The trans is the same as is used in the Crossfire, which makes me wonder if
it will be strong enough. It is also used in the Libby, but that does not
calm my nerves very much, I see the offroading of the Libby to be closer to
that of the Crossfire than to the Wrangler. That is, I think the Wrangler is
generally a more capable platform for the very rough offroad routes whereas
the Libby not meant for the same kinds of extreme routes. I just have to
wonder if the 6 spd is going to work out well in the long run. I like the
features of the 6 spd, don't get me wrong. I just wonder if it is a giant
step backwards to the light weight transmissions of the early YJ, and away
from the mid-weight transmissions of the current TJ and the older CJ.






Larry Greenwood 12-08-2004 09:17 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

Larry
"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>
> --
> Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
> but he who hates correction is stupid.
> Proverbs 12:1
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:

dman@dman13.dyndns.org



Larry Greenwood 12-08-2004 09:17 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

Larry
"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>
> --
> Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
> but he who hates correction is stupid.
> Proverbs 12:1
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:

dman@dman13.dyndns.org



Larry Greenwood 12-08-2004 09:17 PM

Re: 2005 Wrangler
 
I wonder what they did to make a softer rided?

Larry
"Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:gltj82-cf2.ln1@dman13.dyndns.org...
> On 21 Nov 2004 09:04:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anyone has checked out the six speed and the most
> > recent version of our beloved TJ. I'm having trouble finding much out
> > about them. Who's got one?

>
> The 05 TJ is nice. I test drove two of them, and an '01. The '05 had
> a softer ride and a generally nicer interior. Of course, the '01 had
> the vinyl seats so it wasn't the best of the '01s. I don't have one,
> yet, but I like it and will be going back to the dealer soon.
>
> FYI the shift pattern has 6 where R usually is on an American 5-speed
> and R is moved to the right so it is still in the rightmost back
> position. This puts 3 gears on the front row and 4 on the back row.
>
> -D
>
> --
> Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
> but he who hates correction is stupid.
> Proverbs 12:1
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:

dman@dman13.dyndns.org




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