I guess the thing that disappointed me was the IFS.
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"Be Nice" <thanks@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_premiere.htm
>
> Pictures - site is slow as hell (modem, I guess)
>
> What a piece of crap.
> I have a 2001 Limited and hoped for some
> nicer and better updates, now this:
>
> Instrument cluster looks terrible
> no wooden inlays on steering wheel?
> shitty zebrano wood that nobody wanted in 1999 and 2000?
> (why try that garbage wood again?)
> seat adjuster still on the low side of the seat
> (where you can't get to it)
> old wheel design we already have
> (way to small)
> only ONE exhaust tip on the 5.7ltr.?
> (****-poor design)
> they don't even give it a HEMI badge?
> and again, black mirrors on a Limited?
> (does paint really cost that much?)
> black shifter with grey steering wheel?
> (fire the designers; better shoot them dead)
> no more wood on the doors?
> (you got to be kidding)
> yes, there are small storage areas in the dash
> (if you hit the gas, the stuff jumps right out)
> still no room for the right foot
> (on long trips your right leg starts hurting like hell)
> some chrome here but not there (inside and outside)
> (no consistency in the design)
> window chrome only at the bottom?
> (looks like an afterthought)
>
> Man, I am really pissed, now I have
> to find something else to buy in November!
> There's NO WAY that I will get this -- thing!!!
>
> I call this a facelift; a really bad one.
> Opinions, please...
>
>

 

>It is a shame.
>no more color coordinating the window buttons, they are all black now
>no more lights in the doors
>no more fold down rear neck rests, now you have to remove them
>call it a redesign and use the old wheels
>no more color coordinating the interior, steering wheel and shifter are
>different
>less gages in the dash
>
>I WILL NOT BUY (LEASE) a new one again
>If Jeep thinks they can get away this, good luck
>they lost my business for good
>
I also think Jeep made a mistake; I like the WJ but I would never buy
one of these.

What is the closest vehicle currently in production to the XJ, ZJ, and
WJ in terms of size and capability? The Nissan Xterra comes to mind
immediately, even though it looks radically different. It also doesn't
have factory oil/volt gauges, but these would be easy to add.

--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>

 

>It is a shame.
>no more color coordinating the window buttons, they are all black now
>no more lights in the doors
>no more fold down rear neck rests, now you have to remove them
>call it a redesign and use the old wheels
>no more color coordinating the interior, steering wheel and shifter are
>different
>less gages in the dash
>
>I WILL NOT BUY (LEASE) a new one again
>If Jeep thinks they can get away this, good luck
>they lost my business for good
>
I also think Jeep made a mistake; I like the WJ but I would never buy
one of these.

What is the closest vehicle currently in production to the XJ, ZJ, and
WJ in terms of size and capability? The Nissan Xterra comes to mind
immediately, even though it looks radically different. It also doesn't
have factory oil/volt gauges, but these would be easy to add.

--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>

 

>It is a shame.
>no more color coordinating the window buttons, they are all black now
>no more lights in the doors
>no more fold down rear neck rests, now you have to remove them
>call it a redesign and use the old wheels
>no more color coordinating the interior, steering wheel and shifter are
>different
>less gages in the dash
>
>I WILL NOT BUY (LEASE) a new one again
>If Jeep thinks they can get away this, good luck
>they lost my business for good
>
I also think Jeep made a mistake; I like the WJ but I would never buy
one of these.

What is the closest vehicle currently in production to the XJ, ZJ, and
WJ in terms of size and capability? The Nissan Xterra comes to mind
immediately, even though it looks radically different. It also doesn't
have factory oil/volt gauges, but these would be easy to add.

--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>

 

>It is a shame.
>no more color coordinating the window buttons, they are all black now
>no more lights in the doors
>no more fold down rear neck rests, now you have to remove them
>call it a redesign and use the old wheels
>no more color coordinating the interior, steering wheel and shifter are
>different
>less gages in the dash
>
>I WILL NOT BUY (LEASE) a new one again
>If Jeep thinks they can get away this, good luck
>they lost my business for good
>
I also think Jeep made a mistake; I like the WJ but I would never buy
one of these.

What is the closest vehicle currently in production to the XJ, ZJ, and
WJ in terms of size and capability? The Nissan Xterra comes to mind
immediately, even though it looks radically different. It also doesn't
have factory oil/volt gauges, but these would be easy to add.

--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>

 

I've only owned a Jeep for a few years, and it's just a 1991 Cherokee,
so I don't want to come across as trying to be a defender of the True
Jeep Faith or anything, but the answer seems obvious - this isn't
meant to be a JEEP, per se - it's a "WK". Something else altogether.
An alternative for DC customers who think the Durango has become a
bloated, grotesque-looking SUV/van crossover, but still want the Hemi
engine. Very disappointing - maybe I'm out of my depth here, but my
dream vehicle from Jeep would be a resurrection of the mid-90's
Cherokee with Dana 44 axles and the Hemi mill. Although the 4-litre
six is still a great engine anyway. It's sad to see where Jeep seems
to be headed - check John Cappa's comments regarding the hideous and
weirdly-conceived Treo concept vehicle in the April Jp magazine.

John Thompson

 

I've only owned a Jeep for a few years, and it's just a 1991 Cherokee,
so I don't want to come across as trying to be a defender of the True
Jeep Faith or anything, but the answer seems obvious - this isn't
meant to be a JEEP, per se - it's a "WK". Something else altogether.
An alternative for DC customers who think the Durango has become a
bloated, grotesque-looking SUV/van crossover, but still want the Hemi
engine. Very disappointing - maybe I'm out of my depth here, but my
dream vehicle from Jeep would be a resurrection of the mid-90's
Cherokee with Dana 44 axles and the Hemi mill. Although the 4-litre
six is still a great engine anyway. It's sad to see where Jeep seems
to be headed - check John Cappa's comments regarding the hideous and
weirdly-conceived Treo concept vehicle in the April Jp magazine.

John Thompson

 

I've only owned a Jeep for a few years, and it's just a 1991 Cherokee,
so I don't want to come across as trying to be a defender of the True
Jeep Faith or anything, but the answer seems obvious - this isn't
meant to be a JEEP, per se - it's a "WK". Something else altogether.
An alternative for DC customers who think the Durango has become a
bloated, grotesque-looking SUV/van crossover, but still want the Hemi
engine. Very disappointing - maybe I'm out of my depth here, but my
dream vehicle from Jeep would be a resurrection of the mid-90's
Cherokee with Dana 44 axles and the Hemi mill. Although the 4-litre
six is still a great engine anyway. It's sad to see where Jeep seems
to be headed - check John Cappa's comments regarding the hideous and
weirdly-conceived Treo concept vehicle in the April Jp magazine.

John Thompson

 

I've only owned a Jeep for a few years, and it's just a 1991 Cherokee,
so I don't want to come across as trying to be a defender of the True
Jeep Faith or anything, but the answer seems obvious - this isn't
meant to be a JEEP, per se - it's a "WK". Something else altogether.
An alternative for DC customers who think the Durango has become a
bloated, grotesque-looking SUV/van crossover, but still want the Hemi
engine. Very disappointing - maybe I'm out of my depth here, but my
dream vehicle from Jeep would be a resurrection of the mid-90's
Cherokee with Dana 44 axles and the Hemi mill. Although the 4-litre
six is still a great engine anyway. It's sad to see where Jeep seems
to be headed - check John Cappa's comments regarding the hideous and
weirdly-conceived Treo concept vehicle in the April Jp magazine.

John Thompson

 

Range Rover, which is easily better (but prolly costs more) ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastleman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >It is a shame.
> >no more color coordinating the window buttons, they are all black now
> >no more lights in the doors
> >no more fold down rear neck rests, now you have to remove them
> >call it a redesign and use the old wheels
> >no more color coordinating the interior, steering wheel and shifter are
> >different
> >less gages in the dash
> >
> >I WILL NOT BUY (LEASE) a new one again
> >If Jeep thinks they can get away this, good luck
> >they lost my business for good
> >
> I also think Jeep made a mistake; I like the WJ but I would never buy
> one of these.
>
> What is the closest vehicle currently in production to the XJ, ZJ, and
> WJ in terms of size and capability? The Nissan Xterra comes to mind
> immediately, even though it looks radically different. It also doesn't
> have factory oil/volt gauges, but these would be easy to add.
>
> --
> Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>
>