twaldron

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

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tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

No, it's BS. Go to another dealer and let the previous one know why you
will never be back.

Jeff wrote:

> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Russ B

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Russ B

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Russ B

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>

Russ B

build-up around the seat belt/rollbar is probably where the water leaks
through the body seam in the rear wheelwell. It will obviously only do this
when you drive it...The water can't get to the seam when it sits. Mine
(2002) did that. DO NOT LET THE DEALER SEAL THE BOTTOM OF THE ROLL BAR!!!!!
If they do that, the water is going to be trapped between the body panels,
and it will rust FAST. The leak has to be sealed from the outside.


"Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1v2qc.42277$kc2.631128@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> I purchased an '03 TJ in January and noticed the floors wet and figured
they
> must have just cleaned the carpets before we picked it up... almost June
now
> and still finding it damp in spots and the salt build up around the seat
> belt mech.from the winter.... I notice one spot is dry after rain and
> driving it becomes wet... not sure where the water is coming from but the
> dealer more less told me that leaks are not warranty... is this true??
>
>
>
> "Russ B" <gofast@REMOVE_THIStexoma.net> wrote in message
> news:c89bip02q0t@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Jean-paul, The Wrangler is prone to leaks. I've had two: a 1999 that
> Daimler
> > reaplced under my state's lemon law (for water leaks and other problems)
> and
> > a 2002 that replaced it. Both took repeated trips to the dealer to get
the
> > leaks fixed.
> >
> > The 1999 was a hardtop, and the only way the dealer could get it to stop
> > leaking was to glue the top on with silicone (this was after they had
> > damaged teh tub while tryig to fix it). The 2002 is pretty much leak
free
> > except when I wash it with a spray hose. The softop/half doors actually
> > seals out water a little better because of the overlaps that cause water
> to
> > run past places where the others are exopsed.
> >
> > Possible sources: air intake for a/c-heating system, Windshield seal,
> body
> > seams between tub and wheelwell in rear fender, windshield frame to body
> > seal. You may have more than one leak!!! Most likely is the windshield
if
> it
> > drips on your foot. If it only does it when you drive, and the water is
> > muddy like road film, then suspect the body seams. If it pools on
> passenger
> > side when parked, then a/c intake.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b10da60a7966d6c98968a@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > > I am new to Jeep and I have never owned a Jeep before. My wrangler
(soft
> > > top with half doors) has a small pool of water developing in the floor
> > > section of drivers side only. During one heavy rain storm there was a
> > > constant driping on my foot as I drove coming from above the
accelerator
> > > pedal. The passenger side stays dry. I need to bring it back to the
> > > dealer to get it fixed.
> > >
> > > My real question. What should I expect from them? Is it possible to
have
> > > a jeep that does not leak? Or should I just rip out the carpeting now?
> > >
> > > -jpl-
> >
> >
>
>