Matt

Hi Thomas -

So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
(I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
(which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?

Thanks!

Matt
04tj-x

twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
> directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
> questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
> never put your HT on again.
>
> Matt wrote:
>
> > Hey -
> >
> > I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
> > with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
> > has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
> > this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
> > need to get a soft top.
> >
> > I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
> > Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
> >
> > Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
> > Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
> > become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
> > before I can switch tops.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Matt

Hi Thomas -

So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
(I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
(which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?

Thanks!

Matt
04tj-x

twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
> directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
> questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
> never put your HT on again.
>
> Matt wrote:
>
> > Hey -
> >
> > I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
> > with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
> > has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
> > this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
> > need to get a soft top.
> >
> > I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
> > Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
> >
> > Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
> > Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
> > become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
> > before I can switch tops.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Matt

Hi Thomas -

So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
(I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
(which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?

Thanks!

Matt
04tj-x

twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
> directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
> questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
> never put your HT on again.
>
> Matt wrote:
>
> > Hey -
> >
> > I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
> > with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
> > has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
> > this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
> > need to get a soft top.
> >
> > I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
> > Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
> >
> > Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
> > Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
> > become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
> > before I can switch tops.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Hey Matt,

Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
top. The newer Wranglers come with the Sailcloth tops (made by Bestop)
and are much more quiet than the predecessors. I don't know of any
drawbacks to buying directly from Bestop. I've purchased the window sets
and they are a direct replacement for the factory tops, as well as the
two piece soft doors.

Matt wrote:

> Hi Thomas -
>
> So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
> (I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
> would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
> (which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
> 04tj-x
>
> twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
>>directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
>>questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
>>never put your HT on again.
>>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey -
>>>
>>> I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
>>>with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
>>>has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
>>>this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
>>>need to get a soft top.
>>>
>>> I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
>>>Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
>>>Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
>>>become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
>>>before I can switch tops.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Hey Matt,

Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
top. The newer Wranglers come with the Sailcloth tops (made by Bestop)
and are much more quiet than the predecessors. I don't know of any
drawbacks to buying directly from Bestop. I've purchased the window sets
and they are a direct replacement for the factory tops, as well as the
two piece soft doors.

Matt wrote:

> Hi Thomas -
>
> So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
> (I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
> would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
> (which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
> 04tj-x
>
> twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
>>directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
>>questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
>>never put your HT on again.
>>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey -
>>>
>>> I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
>>>with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
>>>has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
>>>this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
>>>need to get a soft top.
>>>
>>> I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
>>>Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
>>>Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
>>>become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
>>>before I can switch tops.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Hey Matt,

Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
top. The newer Wranglers come with the Sailcloth tops (made by Bestop)
and are much more quiet than the predecessors. I don't know of any
drawbacks to buying directly from Bestop. I've purchased the window sets
and they are a direct replacement for the factory tops, as well as the
two piece soft doors.

Matt wrote:

> Hi Thomas -
>
> So you would recommend the Bestop Sailcloth RAT? Do you have one
> (I'm assuming you do based on your recommendation), and if so, how
> would you compare it to the OEM soft top? It's certainly cheaper
> (which I like!), but are there any drawbacks worth mentioning?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
> 04tj-x
>
> twaldron <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:<MZ1_b.123$Lh7.95088752@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>As far as I know, they are unchanged for '04. I'd call/email Bestop
>>directly for a confirmation. They are great about answering such
>>questions. Also, I'd HIGHLY recommend the Sailcloth soft top! You might
>>never put your HT on again.
>>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey -
>>>
>>> I've got a new 2004 Wrangler I bought a few months back. I got it
>>>with the hard top, which I'm definitely pleased with, living in what
>>>has turned out to be a very snowy, frigid Northeast winter. However,
>>>this spring I'm going to want to be able to put the top down, so I
>>>need to get a soft top.
>>>
>>> I've looked around at several sites, including Quadratec, Jeeps Are
>>>Us, and Mopar, and nobody seems to have anything for the 2004s yet.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if a 2003 soft top will fit a 2004 model Wrangler?
>>>Barring that, does anyone know about what time current-year parts
>>>become available for Jeeps? I'd rather not wait until June or July
>>>before I can switch tops.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Intergate

I am wondering why Best top Does not sell the Tinted Window Kit for 2004's
yet, They told me that, but you can get them from Mopar. Do they make the
windows also?


> Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
> top.

Intergate

I am wondering why Best top Does not sell the Tinted Window Kit for 2004's
yet, They told me that, but you can get them from Mopar. Do they make the
windows also?


> Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
> top.

Intergate

I am wondering why Best top Does not sell the Tinted Window Kit for 2004's
yet, They told me that, but you can get them from Mopar. Do they make the
windows also?


> Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
> top.

twaldron

Yes, I believe they have a separate production line/facility just for
DC's stuff. I don't know if they are under contract to wait a bit, or
what the deal is, but often they offer the products directly to the
public after a short wait. I would definitely wait for the windows from
Bestop. The price difference is about $140 vs. $600 for a set of 3 windows.

Intergate wrote:

> I am wondering why Best top Does not sell the Tinted Window Kit for 2004's
> yet, They told me that, but you can get them from Mopar. Do they make the
> windows also?
>
>
>
>>Bestop makes the tops for Mopar, so you are effectively getting an OEM
>>top.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________