Earle Horton

What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You can't
tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is best
to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
have confidence in.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
first
> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting to
> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost on
> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy. Does
> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
idle
> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a flash
> adjustment on the program.
>
> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> Thanks
>
>

Earle Horton

What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You can't
tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is best
to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
have confidence in.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
first
> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting to
> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost on
> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy. Does
> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
idle
> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a flash
> adjustment on the program.
>
> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> Thanks
>
>

Earle Horton

What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You can't
tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is best
to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
have confidence in.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
first
> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting to
> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost on
> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy. Does
> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
idle
> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a flash
> adjustment on the program.
>
> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> Thanks
>
>

Scott S.

Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why this
occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit sometimes
dont catch it some times.

Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
Hope I can return the favor.

SCOTT
Electrician
MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
> go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> can't
> tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> best
> to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
> have confidence in.
>
> Earle
>
> "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
>> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> first
>> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
>> to
>> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
>> on
>> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
>> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
>> Does
>> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
>> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> idle
>> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
>> flash
>> adjustment on the program.
>>
>> Please, Need a opinion on this.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

Scott S.

Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why this
occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit sometimes
dont catch it some times.

Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
Hope I can return the favor.

SCOTT
Electrician
MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
> go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> can't
> tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> best
> to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
> have confidence in.
>
> Earle
>
> "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
>> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> first
>> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
>> to
>> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
>> on
>> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
>> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
>> Does
>> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
>> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> idle
>> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
>> flash
>> adjustment on the program.
>>
>> Please, Need a opinion on this.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

Scott S.

Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why this
occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit sometimes
dont catch it some times.

Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
Hope I can return the favor.

SCOTT
Electrician
MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the lights
> go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> can't
> tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> best
> to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval you
> have confidence in.
>
> Earle
>
> "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While going
>> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> first
>> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
>> to
>> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
>> on
>> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
>> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
>> Does
>> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
>> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> idle
>> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
>> flash
>> adjustment on the program.
>>
>> Please, Need a opinion on this.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

Earle Horton

To repeat, you can't tell by looking at it, if the belt is good or not. It
has to be tight, or at least properly tensioned, but it doesn't mean you
have a good belt, just because it is tight.

You can clean the idle valve and throttle body. This would be useful at
least for peace of mind, and eliminating that as a source of your problem.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hH2Bf.15972$Yu.13525@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
> checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
> whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why
this
> occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
> taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit
sometimes
> dont catch it some times.
>
> Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
> Hope I can return the favor.
>
> SCOTT
> Electrician
> MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> > lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the
lights
> > go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> > can't
> > tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> > best
> > to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval
you
> > have confidence in.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> >> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While
going
> >> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> > first
> >> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
> >> to
> >> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
> >> on
> >> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> >> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
> >> Does
> >> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> >> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> > idle
> >> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
> >> flash
> >> adjustment on the program.
> >>
> >> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

To repeat, you can't tell by looking at it, if the belt is good or not. It
has to be tight, or at least properly tensioned, but it doesn't mean you
have a good belt, just because it is tight.

You can clean the idle valve and throttle body. This would be useful at
least for peace of mind, and eliminating that as a source of your problem.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hH2Bf.15972$Yu.13525@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
> checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
> whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why
this
> occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
> taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit
sometimes
> dont catch it some times.
>
> Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
> Hope I can return the favor.
>
> SCOTT
> Electrician
> MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> > lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the
lights
> > go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> > can't
> > tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> > best
> > to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval
you
> > have confidence in.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> >> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While
going
> >> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> > first
> >> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
> >> to
> >> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
> >> on
> >> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> >> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
> >> Does
> >> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> >> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> > idle
> >> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
> >> flash
> >> adjustment on the program.
> >>
> >> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

To repeat, you can't tell by looking at it, if the belt is good or not. It
has to be tight, or at least properly tensioned, but it doesn't mean you
have a good belt, just because it is tight.

You can clean the idle valve and throttle body. This would be useful at
least for peace of mind, and eliminating that as a source of your problem.

Earle

"Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hH2Bf.15972$Yu.13525@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Yes ..Goes down way low. it basically hits 9 volts..bottom of gauge.
> checklights comes on and all lights go dim, fan heater blower slows.. The
> whole 9 yards. It dont happen all the time, but enough to question why
this
> occurs. The 2001 Jeep has only 28,000 miles. Checked the belt and its
> taught. Had no probs the past couple days. I think it idle circuit
sometimes
> dont catch it some times.
>
> Thanks guys for the advice. It check the battery tomorrow.
> Hope I can return the favor.
>
> SCOTT
> Electrician
> MACK II Chrysler engine plant (3.7liter)
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43d48c4d$0$1338$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > What do you mean by "all power is lost on my charging circuit"? Do the
> > lights go dim, or does the gauge just register low voltage? If the
lights
> > go dim, check the battery, belt, etc. like others have suggested. You
> > can't
> > tell the condition of a serpentine drive belt, by looking at it. It is
> > best
> > to replace them every couple years, 30,000 miles, or whatever interval
you
> > have confidence in.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Scott S." <urn4trouble@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:YJRAf.18578$dW3.15826@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> >> This has just started to happen to me in the past few months. While
going
> >> home late with my lights and items on my jeep this happens. I'm at my
> > first
> >> stop light before heading on the highway and I notice the idle starting
> >> to
> >> creep down it continues and sometimes it going so low all power is lost
> >> on
> >> my charging circuit. I got to give it a little throttle to recover from
> >> this. Not fun when heading home late and this can sure wake up a guy.
> >> Does
> >> anyone know a issue on the idle control sol. valve for the idle circuit
> >> having problems on the throttle body. I would think the pcm would keep
> > idle
> >> within range of proper speed. Or is the a issue for the dealer for a
> >> flash
> >> adjustment on the program.
> >>
> >> Please, Need a opinion on this.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

TNKEV

Earle Horton wrote:
> To repeat, you can't tell by looking at it, if the belt is good or
not.

Ycan if it has threads hanging out of it or if it very shiny on the
backside or has peices missing from the ribbed side.

> It
> has to be tight, or at least properly tensioned, but it doesn't mean
you
> have a good belt, just because it is tight.
>
> You can clean the idle valve and throttle body.

this is likely the OP's issue,the Idle air control can get very dirty
on a vehicle that is driven on very short
trips,the engine doesn't get hot enough to burn everything away,lots
of carbon builds up.

clean the throttle body and the idle air control,it would also be good
to have the engine decarboned and
change the spark plugs.


> This would be useful at
> least for peace of mind, and eliminating that as a source of your
problem.
>
> Earle
>



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