Been driving an '03 Liberty Sport since May, 2003, and am very happy with
it. I use it for normal "in-town" driving (to work & such) and for moderate
to rough off-road (I like to follow old railroad grades). Without cranking
up the argument as to whether or not it's a "real Jeep", the Liberty is more
than capable of doing exactly what I want out of it.


"Ufatbasted" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bdab55d6.0410071755.15b076c1@posting.google.c om...
> Im gonna get ripped a new one but I bought a 02 Liberty new as my
> family ride and have had zero probs. I have the pre lowered one and
> when Im ready to sell someone will want it. Two re-calls but Id rather
> be re-called then covered up. Fact is I love it. Prior new cars were a
> Honda and a Mazda which both served me well and I like the Liberty
> better. All depends what you want to use it for.
> Do not use for off road just family stuff vacations and highway
> driving and she does well. I have my 91 YJ for the fun stuff. It tows
> my YJ to the station for stuff I cant fix.
>
>
> jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote in message
> news:<13efcc39.0410061817.1c7cad47@posting.google. com>...
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>> > My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>> > time
>> > to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>> > And
>> > so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>> > one
>> > think I made a mistake?
>> I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
>> tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
>> Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
>> carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
>> Liberty.
>>
>> Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
>> instead of a brand new Liberty.

 

Been driving an '03 Liberty Sport since May, 2003, and am very happy with
it. I use it for normal "in-town" driving (to work & such) and for moderate
to rough off-road (I like to follow old railroad grades). Without cranking
up the argument as to whether or not it's a "real Jeep", the Liberty is more
than capable of doing exactly what I want out of it.


"Ufatbasted" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bdab55d6.0410071755.15b076c1@posting.google.c om...
> Im gonna get ripped a new one but I bought a 02 Liberty new as my
> family ride and have had zero probs. I have the pre lowered one and
> when Im ready to sell someone will want it. Two re-calls but Id rather
> be re-called then covered up. Fact is I love it. Prior new cars were a
> Honda and a Mazda which both served me well and I like the Liberty
> better. All depends what you want to use it for.
> Do not use for off road just family stuff vacations and highway
> driving and she does well. I have my 91 YJ for the fun stuff. It tows
> my YJ to the station for stuff I cant fix.
>
>
> jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote in message
> news:<13efcc39.0410061817.1c7cad47@posting.google. com>...
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>> > My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>> > time
>> > to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>> > And
>> > so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>> > one
>> > think I made a mistake?
>> I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
>> tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
>> Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
>> carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
>> Liberty.
>>
>> Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
>> instead of a brand new Liberty.

 

I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
rating.


--HM


"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:sYSdnUMSXPcakfvcRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Been driving an '03 Liberty Sport since May, 2003, and am very happy with
> it. I use it for normal "in-town" driving (to work & such) and for
> moderate to rough off-road (I like to follow old railroad grades).
> Without cranking up the argument as to whether or not it's a "real Jeep",
> the Liberty is more than capable of doing exactly what I want out of it.
>
>
> "Ufatbasted" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bdab55d6.0410071755.15b076c1@posting.google.c om...
>> Im gonna get ripped a new one but I bought a 02 Liberty new as my
>> family ride and have had zero probs. I have the pre lowered one and
>> when Im ready to sell someone will want it. Two re-calls but Id rather
>> be re-called then covered up. Fact is I love it. Prior new cars were a
>> Honda and a Mazda which both served me well and I like the Liberty
>> better. All depends what you want to use it for.
>> Do not use for off road just family stuff vacations and highway
>> driving and she does well. I have my 91 YJ for the fun stuff. It tows
>> my YJ to the station for stuff I cant fix.
>>
>>
>> jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote in message
>> news:<13efcc39.0410061817.1c7cad47@posting.google. com>...
>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>>> > My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>> > time
>>> > to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>>> > And
>>> > so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition.
>>> > Any one
>>> > think I made a mistake?
>>> I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
>>> tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
>>> Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
>>> carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
>>> Liberty.
>>>
>>> Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
>>> instead of a brand new Liberty.
>
>

 

I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
rating.


--HM


"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:sYSdnUMSXPcakfvcRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Been driving an '03 Liberty Sport since May, 2003, and am very happy with
> it. I use it for normal "in-town" driving (to work & such) and for
> moderate to rough off-road (I like to follow old railroad grades).
> Without cranking up the argument as to whether or not it's a "real Jeep",
> the Liberty is more than capable of doing exactly what I want out of it.
>
>
> "Ufatbasted" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bdab55d6.0410071755.15b076c1@posting.google.c om...
>> Im gonna get ripped a new one but I bought a 02 Liberty new as my
>> family ride and have had zero probs. I have the pre lowered one and
>> when Im ready to sell someone will want it. Two re-calls but Id rather
>> be re-called then covered up. Fact is I love it. Prior new cars were a
>> Honda and a Mazda which both served me well and I like the Liberty
>> better. All depends what you want to use it for.
>> Do not use for off road just family stuff vacations and highway
>> driving and she does well. I have my 91 YJ for the fun stuff. It tows
>> my YJ to the station for stuff I cant fix.
>>
>>
>> jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote in message
>> news:<13efcc39.0410061817.1c7cad47@posting.google. com>...
>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>>> > My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>> > time
>>> > to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>>> > And
>>> > so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition.
>>> > Any one
>>> > think I made a mistake?
>>> I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
>>> tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
>>> Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
>>> carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
>>> Liberty.
>>>
>>> Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
>>> instead of a brand new Liberty.
>
>

 

I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
rating.


--HM


"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:sYSdnUMSXPcakfvcRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> Been driving an '03 Liberty Sport since May, 2003, and am very happy with
> it. I use it for normal "in-town" driving (to work & such) and for
> moderate to rough off-road (I like to follow old railroad grades).
> Without cranking up the argument as to whether or not it's a "real Jeep",
> the Liberty is more than capable of doing exactly what I want out of it.
>
>
> "Ufatbasted" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bdab55d6.0410071755.15b076c1@posting.google.c om...
>> Im gonna get ripped a new one but I bought a 02 Liberty new as my
>> family ride and have had zero probs. I have the pre lowered one and
>> when Im ready to sell someone will want it. Two re-calls but Id rather
>> be re-called then covered up. Fact is I love it. Prior new cars were a
>> Honda and a Mazda which both served me well and I like the Liberty
>> better. All depends what you want to use it for.
>> Do not use for off road just family stuff vacations and highway
>> driving and she does well. I have my 91 YJ for the fun stuff. It tows
>> my YJ to the station for stuff I cant fix.
>>
>>
>> jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote in message
>> news:<13efcc39.0410061817.1c7cad47@posting.google. com>...
>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>>> > My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>> > time
>>> > to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>>> > And
>>> > so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition.
>>> > Any one
>>> > think I made a mistake?
>>> I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
>>> tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
>>> Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
>>> carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
>>> Liberty.
>>>
>>> Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
>>> instead of a brand new Liberty.
>
>

 

Cool idea, after the fatal crash, the family survivors may take
part in the class action suit.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
> rating.
>
> --HM

 

Cool idea, after the fatal crash, the family survivors may take
part in the class action suit.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
> rating.
>
> --HM

 

Cool idea, after the fatal crash, the family survivors may take
part in the class action suit.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it. So
> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is only
> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving 1
> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper stretches
> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break in
> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy JGCL
> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of road
> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL. "especially
> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I really
> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll over
> rating.
>
> --HM

 

Ok, ok, I will bring it back and exchange it for a heavy ZJ! Jeez touchy
around here, besides it is true it is definetly "NOT" a JEEP. I'll let you
know what I drive home with. I was always in love with the Overland and they
had one sitting there just begging to be taken up the Henry Hudson. uuummm,
all you have to do is toss my family into the equation to convince me,
considering how fanatical I am about my family. We all felt safer in the
JGCL for sure.

--HM


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416620FA.D1888359@***.net...
> Cool idea, after the fatal crash, the family survivors may take
> part in the class action suit.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it.
>> So
>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is
>> only
>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving
>> 1
>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
>> stretches
>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break
>> in
>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy
>> JGCL
>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of
>> road
>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
>> "especially
>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I
>> really
>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll
>> over
>> rating.
>>
>> --HM

 

Ok, ok, I will bring it back and exchange it for a heavy ZJ! Jeez touchy
around here, besides it is true it is definetly "NOT" a JEEP. I'll let you
know what I drive home with. I was always in love with the Overland and they
had one sitting there just begging to be taken up the Henry Hudson. uuummm,
all you have to do is toss my family into the equation to convince me,
considering how fanatical I am about my family. We all felt safer in the
JGCL for sure.

--HM


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416620FA.D1888359@***.net...
> Cool idea, after the fatal crash, the family survivors may take
> part in the class action suit.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on it.
>> So
>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all the
>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is
>> only
>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC driving
>> 1
>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
>> stretches
>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to break
>> in
>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck breaking 25
>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The fear of
>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40 to 50
>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a heavy
>> JGCL
>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out, because
>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take those
>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch of
>> road
>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
>> "especially
>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there and
>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I
>> really
>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to type
>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll
>> over
>> rating.
>>
>> --HM