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TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 12:40 AM

2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
think I made a mistake?

--HM



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 01:30 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I vote mistake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 01:30 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I vote mistake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 01:30 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I vote mistake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM


Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:50 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
since you asked, yes.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was

time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any

one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:50 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
since you asked, yes.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was

time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any

one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:50 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
since you asked, yes.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was

time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any

one
> think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:34 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
"mistake" from is you Bill.
In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and something
else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
"Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was playing
the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before I
thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of it
fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement JEEP
or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get the
group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97' just
on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?


--HM



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> I vote mistake.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>> time
>> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>> And
>> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>> one
>> think I made a mistake?
>>
>> --HM




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:34 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
"mistake" from is you Bill.
In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and something
else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
"Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was playing
the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before I
thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of it
fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement JEEP
or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get the
group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97' just
on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?


--HM



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> I vote mistake.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>> time
>> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>> And
>> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>> one
>> think I made a mistake?
>>
>> --HM




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:34 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
"mistake" from is you Bill.
In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and something
else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
"Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was playing
the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before I
thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of it
fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement JEEP
or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get the
group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97' just
on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?


--HM



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> I vote mistake.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>> time
>> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
>> And
>> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>> one
>> think I made a mistake?
>>
>> --HM




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 10:06 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:IKQ8d.63566$Ot3.11042@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
> "mistake" from is you Bill.
> In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
> going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
> the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and

something
> else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
> "Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was

playing
> the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before

I
> thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
> that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
> show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of

it
> fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement

JEEP
> or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get

the
> group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97'

just
> on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
> higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
> cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
> But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> > I vote mistake.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> >> time
> >> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
> >> And
> >> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
> >> one
> >> think I made a mistake?
> >>
> >> --HM

>
>




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 10:06 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:IKQ8d.63566$Ot3.11042@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
> "mistake" from is you Bill.
> In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
> going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
> the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and

something
> else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
> "Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was

playing
> the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before

I
> thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
> that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
> show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of

it
> fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement

JEEP
> or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get

the
> group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97'

just
> on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
> higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
> cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
> But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> > I vote mistake.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> >> time
> >> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
> >> And
> >> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
> >> one
> >> think I made a mistake?
> >>
> >> --HM

>
>




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 10:06 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:IKQ8d.63566$Ot3.11042@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Ugh! The last person in the whole world that I wanted to hear the words
> "mistake" from is you Bill.
> In my book your the authority here... But my I was affaid that my 97' was
> going to take me down that road that leads to the money pit. It was making
> the most God awful sounds from the power train, differential, and

something
> else under there. It really wasn't good. I took it too where I always go
> "Manhattan JEEP" 4 times and my poor baby still sounded like it was

playing
> the Baba Lou on a conga. Anyway I have been down the money pit road before

I
> thought I was heading myself off at the pass. Even the head mechanic there
> that just so happens to be a friend, took me on a test drive so that I can
> show them whats wrong. And when he heard the Baba Lou he said "get rid of

it
> fast" and with that I was convinced. Is my mistsake in the replacement

JEEP
> or just in getting rid of the 97'? Ugh! I sure hope I don't have to get

the
> group to nurse me thru owning this Liberty. It kinda drive like my 97'

just
> on a smaller scale if that makes any sence. it seems ok I know about the
> higher center of gravity and that they tend to roll to the right when
> cruising and the comfort level is down a couple of notches from my 97'...
> But ok Bill sock it to me. Is my newer Liberty gonna give me a coranary?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:416382F0.A5B902A7@cox.net...
> > I vote mistake.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> >> time
> >> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle.
> >> And
> >> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
> >> one
> >> think I made a mistake?
> >>
> >> --HM

>
>




Reactor 10-06-2004 12:07 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 

Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
$19K.

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
<news@techcitypc.com> wrote:

>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
>think I made a mistake?
>
>--HM
>



Reactor 10-06-2004 12:07 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 

Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
$19K.

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
<news@techcitypc.com> wrote:

>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
>think I made a mistake?
>
>--HM
>



Reactor 10-06-2004 12:07 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 

Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
$19K.

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
<news@techcitypc.com> wrote:

>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
>think I made a mistake?
>
>--HM
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 02:53 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 02:53 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-06-2004 02:53 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:04 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
coo; hadn't heard that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41643F2C.8174D3B6@cox.net...
> You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
> http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:04 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
coo; hadn't heard that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41643F2C.8174D3B6@cox.net...
> You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
> http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




Dave Milne 10-06-2004 03:04 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
coo; hadn't heard that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41643F2C.8174D3B6@cox.net...
> You mean you don't know their wheels fall off?
> http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Dont think there is any indication yet that they are unreliable.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:23 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! Bill! You have got to be kidding! I'm going to go postal at Manhattan
JEEP!
If this thing so much as sputters in a funny way its going back. I spent the
day putting it throught the ringer all over NYC so far so good actually held
up in some places I was sure only a heavy ZJ could could and it did ok there
to, mind you it didnt go through like a ZJ , but it held its own. And you
can certainly count on me checking into the wheels falling of at Manhattan
JEEP "Thanks Bill!" I can see I might have made a mistake and you can also
count on mr holding JEEP accountable for anything and everything that can
and will go wrong with this puppy. I also have a bumper to bumper warranty
plus the extended warranty that kicks in after that expires. I have learned
that when you still have a warranty you can still make them jump for you a
little, but that service contract isnt worth the paper its written on.


--HM



"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> time to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this
> vehicle. And so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted
> Edition. Any one think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:23 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! Bill! You have got to be kidding! I'm going to go postal at Manhattan
JEEP!
If this thing so much as sputters in a funny way its going back. I spent the
day putting it throught the ringer all over NYC so far so good actually held
up in some places I was sure only a heavy ZJ could could and it did ok there
to, mind you it didnt go through like a ZJ , but it held its own. And you
can certainly count on me checking into the wheels falling of at Manhattan
JEEP "Thanks Bill!" I can see I might have made a mistake and you can also
count on mr holding JEEP accountable for anything and everything that can
and will go wrong with this puppy. I also have a bumper to bumper warranty
plus the extended warranty that kicks in after that expires. I have learned
that when you still have a warranty you can still make them jump for you a
little, but that service contract isnt worth the paper its written on.


--HM



"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> time to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this
> vehicle. And so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted
> Edition. Any one think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




TechCityPC.com 10-06-2004 07:23 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! Bill! You have got to be kidding! I'm going to go postal at Manhattan
JEEP!
If this thing so much as sputters in a funny way its going back. I spent the
day putting it throught the ringer all over NYC so far so good actually held
up in some places I was sure only a heavy ZJ could could and it did ok there
to, mind you it didnt go through like a ZJ , but it held its own. And you
can certainly count on me checking into the wheels falling of at Manhattan
JEEP "Thanks Bill!" I can see I might have made a mistake and you can also
count on mr holding JEEP accountable for anything and everything that can
and will go wrong with this puppy. I also have a bumper to bumper warranty
plus the extended warranty that kicks in after that expires. I have learned
that when you still have a warranty you can still make them jump for you a
little, but that service contract isnt worth the paper its written on.


--HM



"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
> time to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this
> vehicle. And so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted
> Edition. Any one think I made a mistake?
>
> --HM
>
>




John Welch 10-06-2004 10:17 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?

I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
Liberty.

Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
instead of a brand new Liberty.

John Welch 10-06-2004 10:17 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?

I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
Liberty.

Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
instead of a brand new Liberty.

John Welch 10-06-2004 10:17 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message news:<8HK8d.63552$Ot3.61508@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was time
> to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
> so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any one
> think I made a mistake?

I have 40k+ miles on mine. It needs limited slip and more agressive
tires perhaps. It works great for getting the Wrangler unstuck.
Also, when the kid smashes the Wrangler to smithereens I can winch
carcass of the Wrangler onto a trailer and haul it off with the
Liberty.

Had I to do it over again I would consider buying a 2 year old Grand
instead of a brand new Liberty.

TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 10:46 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped. The Liberty
is definitely not my first choice in a JEEP. I'd rather have an Overland or
something like that... But its 2004 and gassing up I feel is only gonna get
worse... I will keep all posted because they way I drove my 97 JGCL here in
the city has been compared to off roading those of you who live in NYC know
what I mean. So I will definitely put this little sucker through its paces
and lets see if we can get one of the wheels to fall off for good ol' Bill.
The funny part is that they day I was picking up my Liberty a Renegade was
being brought in with what looked like a busted axel or something. The
driver's side front wheel was sticking straight out. I turned on denial mode
instantly!


--HM


P.S. I found this some where I guess it doesn't matter where... But I really
thought it was a cool thing to share... Check it out.

I am the flag of the United States of America.

I was born on June 14, 1777, in Philadelphia.

There the Continental Congress adopted my stars and stripes as the national
flag.

My thirteen stripes alternating red and white, with a union of thirteen
white stars in a field of blue, represented a new constellation, a new
nation dedicated to the personal and religious liberty of all mankind.

Today fifty stars signal from my union, one for each of the fifty sovereign
states in the greatest constitutional republic the world has ever known.

My colors symbolize the patriotic ideals and spiritual qualities of the
citizens of my country.

My red stripes proclaim the fearless courage and integrity of American men
and boys and the self-sacrifice and devotion of American mothers and
daughters.

My white stripes stand for liberty and equality for all.

My blue is the blue of heaven, loyalty, and faith.

I represent these eternal principles: liberty, justice, and humanity.

I embody American freedom: freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press,
and the sanctity of the home.

I typify that indomitable spirit of determination brought to my land by
Christopher Columbus and by all my forefathers - the Pilgrims, Puritans,
settlers at James town and Plymouth.

I am as old as my nation.

I am a living symbol of my nation's law: the Constitution of the United
States and the Bill of Rights.

I voice Abraham Lincoln's philosophy: "A government of the people, by the
people,for the people."

I stand guard over my nation's schools, the seedbed of good citizenship and
true patriotism.

I am displayed in every schoolroom throughout my nation; every schoolyard
has a flag pole for my display.

Daily thousands upon thousands of boys and girls pledge their allegiance to
me and my country.

I have my own law-Public Law 829, "The Flag Code" - which definitely states
my correct use and display for all occasions and situations.

I have my special day, Flag Day. June 14 is set aside to honor my birth.

Americans, I am the sacred emblem of your country. I symbolize your
birthright, your heritage of liberty purchased with blood and sorrow.

I am your title deed of freedom, which is yours to enjoy and hold in trust
for posterity.

If you fail to keep this sacred trust inviolate, if I am nullified and
destroyed, you and your children will become slaves to dictators and
despots.

Eternal vigilance is your price of freedom.

As you see me silhouetted against the peaceful skies of my country, remind
yourself that I am the flag of your country, that I stand for what you are -
no more, no less.

Guard me well, lest your freedom perish from the earth.

Dedicate your lives to those principles for which I stand: "One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I was created in freedom. I made my first appearance in a battle for human
liberty.

God grant that I may spend eternity in my "land of the free and the home of
the brave" and that I shall ever be known as "Old Glory," the flag of the
United States of America.




"Reactor" <usenet@reactor.org> wrote in message
news:mj58m09jafb1jcgee9f9p4118sh5rlcaho@4ax.com...
>
> Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
> found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
> girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
> got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
> $19K.
>
> On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
> <news@techcitypc.com> wrote:
>
>>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>time
>>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>>one
>>think I made a mistake?
>>
>>--HM
>>

>




TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 10:46 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped. The Liberty
is definitely not my first choice in a JEEP. I'd rather have an Overland or
something like that... But its 2004 and gassing up I feel is only gonna get
worse... I will keep all posted because they way I drove my 97 JGCL here in
the city has been compared to off roading those of you who live in NYC know
what I mean. So I will definitely put this little sucker through its paces
and lets see if we can get one of the wheels to fall off for good ol' Bill.
The funny part is that they day I was picking up my Liberty a Renegade was
being brought in with what looked like a busted axel or something. The
driver's side front wheel was sticking straight out. I turned on denial mode
instantly!


--HM


P.S. I found this some where I guess it doesn't matter where... But I really
thought it was a cool thing to share... Check it out.

I am the flag of the United States of America.

I was born on June 14, 1777, in Philadelphia.

There the Continental Congress adopted my stars and stripes as the national
flag.

My thirteen stripes alternating red and white, with a union of thirteen
white stars in a field of blue, represented a new constellation, a new
nation dedicated to the personal and religious liberty of all mankind.

Today fifty stars signal from my union, one for each of the fifty sovereign
states in the greatest constitutional republic the world has ever known.

My colors symbolize the patriotic ideals and spiritual qualities of the
citizens of my country.

My red stripes proclaim the fearless courage and integrity of American men
and boys and the self-sacrifice and devotion of American mothers and
daughters.

My white stripes stand for liberty and equality for all.

My blue is the blue of heaven, loyalty, and faith.

I represent these eternal principles: liberty, justice, and humanity.

I embody American freedom: freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press,
and the sanctity of the home.

I typify that indomitable spirit of determination brought to my land by
Christopher Columbus and by all my forefathers - the Pilgrims, Puritans,
settlers at James town and Plymouth.

I am as old as my nation.

I am a living symbol of my nation's law: the Constitution of the United
States and the Bill of Rights.

I voice Abraham Lincoln's philosophy: "A government of the people, by the
people,for the people."

I stand guard over my nation's schools, the seedbed of good citizenship and
true patriotism.

I am displayed in every schoolroom throughout my nation; every schoolyard
has a flag pole for my display.

Daily thousands upon thousands of boys and girls pledge their allegiance to
me and my country.

I have my own law-Public Law 829, "The Flag Code" - which definitely states
my correct use and display for all occasions and situations.

I have my special day, Flag Day. June 14 is set aside to honor my birth.

Americans, I am the sacred emblem of your country. I symbolize your
birthright, your heritage of liberty purchased with blood and sorrow.

I am your title deed of freedom, which is yours to enjoy and hold in trust
for posterity.

If you fail to keep this sacred trust inviolate, if I am nullified and
destroyed, you and your children will become slaves to dictators and
despots.

Eternal vigilance is your price of freedom.

As you see me silhouetted against the peaceful skies of my country, remind
yourself that I am the flag of your country, that I stand for what you are -
no more, no less.

Guard me well, lest your freedom perish from the earth.

Dedicate your lives to those principles for which I stand: "One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I was created in freedom. I made my first appearance in a battle for human
liberty.

God grant that I may spend eternity in my "land of the free and the home of
the brave" and that I shall ever be known as "Old Glory," the flag of the
United States of America.




"Reactor" <usenet@reactor.org> wrote in message
news:mj58m09jafb1jcgee9f9p4118sh5rlcaho@4ax.com...
>
> Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
> found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
> girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
> got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
> $19K.
>
> On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
> <news@techcitypc.com> wrote:
>
>>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>time
>>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>>one
>>think I made a mistake?
>>
>>--HM
>>

>




TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 10:46 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped. The Liberty
is definitely not my first choice in a JEEP. I'd rather have an Overland or
something like that... But its 2004 and gassing up I feel is only gonna get
worse... I will keep all posted because they way I drove my 97 JGCL here in
the city has been compared to off roading those of you who live in NYC know
what I mean. So I will definitely put this little sucker through its paces
and lets see if we can get one of the wheels to fall off for good ol' Bill.
The funny part is that they day I was picking up my Liberty a Renegade was
being brought in with what looked like a busted axel or something. The
driver's side front wheel was sticking straight out. I turned on denial mode
instantly!


--HM


P.S. I found this some where I guess it doesn't matter where... But I really
thought it was a cool thing to share... Check it out.

I am the flag of the United States of America.

I was born on June 14, 1777, in Philadelphia.

There the Continental Congress adopted my stars and stripes as the national
flag.

My thirteen stripes alternating red and white, with a union of thirteen
white stars in a field of blue, represented a new constellation, a new
nation dedicated to the personal and religious liberty of all mankind.

Today fifty stars signal from my union, one for each of the fifty sovereign
states in the greatest constitutional republic the world has ever known.

My colors symbolize the patriotic ideals and spiritual qualities of the
citizens of my country.

My red stripes proclaim the fearless courage and integrity of American men
and boys and the self-sacrifice and devotion of American mothers and
daughters.

My white stripes stand for liberty and equality for all.

My blue is the blue of heaven, loyalty, and faith.

I represent these eternal principles: liberty, justice, and humanity.

I embody American freedom: freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press,
and the sanctity of the home.

I typify that indomitable spirit of determination brought to my land by
Christopher Columbus and by all my forefathers - the Pilgrims, Puritans,
settlers at James town and Plymouth.

I am as old as my nation.

I am a living symbol of my nation's law: the Constitution of the United
States and the Bill of Rights.

I voice Abraham Lincoln's philosophy: "A government of the people, by the
people,for the people."

I stand guard over my nation's schools, the seedbed of good citizenship and
true patriotism.

I am displayed in every schoolroom throughout my nation; every schoolyard
has a flag pole for my display.

Daily thousands upon thousands of boys and girls pledge their allegiance to
me and my country.

I have my own law-Public Law 829, "The Flag Code" - which definitely states
my correct use and display for all occasions and situations.

I have my special day, Flag Day. June 14 is set aside to honor my birth.

Americans, I am the sacred emblem of your country. I symbolize your
birthright, your heritage of liberty purchased with blood and sorrow.

I am your title deed of freedom, which is yours to enjoy and hold in trust
for posterity.

If you fail to keep this sacred trust inviolate, if I am nullified and
destroyed, you and your children will become slaves to dictators and
despots.

Eternal vigilance is your price of freedom.

As you see me silhouetted against the peaceful skies of my country, remind
yourself that I am the flag of your country, that I stand for what you are -
no more, no less.

Guard me well, lest your freedom perish from the earth.

Dedicate your lives to those principles for which I stand: "One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I was created in freedom. I made my first appearance in a battle for human
liberty.

God grant that I may spend eternity in my "land of the free and the home of
the brave" and that I shall ever be known as "Old Glory," the flag of the
United States of America.




"Reactor" <usenet@reactor.org> wrote in message
news:mj58m09jafb1jcgee9f9p4118sh5rlcaho@4ax.com...
>
> Did you ever consider a used late model Grand (2000/01)? They can be
> found fully loaded for about the same price as a 02 Liberty. I put my
> girlfriend into a 2000 Grand Limited and she's never been happier. We
> got a 4/40K bumper-to-bumper warranty on it out the door for just over
> $19K.
>
> On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:40:36 GMT, "TechCityPC.com"
> <news@techcitypc.com> wrote:
>
>>My 1997 JGCL started doing the differential thing and I figured it was
>>time
>>to get out. So I drove it to JEEP and said I want out of this vehicle. And
>>so the next day I drove out in a 2002 JEEP Liberty Limeted Edition. Any
>>one
>>think I made a mistake?
>>
>>--HM
>>

>




Mike Romain 10-07-2004 11:41 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
homework....

Anyway.....

Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.

Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....

Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!

Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)

All this info is publicly available at:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.


Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.

Mike Romain 10-07-2004 11:41 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
homework....

Anyway.....

Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.

Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....

Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!

Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)

All this info is publicly available at:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.


Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.

Mike Romain 10-07-2004 11:41 AM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
homework....

Anyway.....

Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.

Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....

Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!

Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)

All this info is publicly available at:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.


Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-07-2004 01:42 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
<ROTFLMAO>

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-07-2004 01:42 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
<ROTFLMAO>

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-07-2004 01:42 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
<ROTFLMAO>

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 08:26 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! And did after all this did a swarm of locust descend on your village!
Holy Jesus man. It's used for starters, meaning alot of this has already
happend and been replaced and or repaired. I did do my home work and found
the same stuff you "found" because I don't believe any of this has happend
to you personally and I know that only some of that applys to only some
Libertys. Assuming that everyone is an idiot is idiotic in itself.

I also most certainly know that "ALL" JEEPs have their pros and cons and
factory defects, recalls, etc, etc...
Even my old '97 JGCL had numerous recalls and TSBs all taken care of and
never a problem since. Im hoping for the same with this one of which I have
a list of all repairs made to the vehicle including recalls and TSBs. And
get used to it buddy because the Europeans have taken over something many of
us hold sacred, that being JEEP.


--HM


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4165638D.CE2B6628@sympatico.ca...
>I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.

>
> Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.




TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 08:26 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! And did after all this did a swarm of locust descend on your village!
Holy Jesus man. It's used for starters, meaning alot of this has already
happend and been replaced and or repaired. I did do my home work and found
the same stuff you "found" because I don't believe any of this has happend
to you personally and I know that only some of that applys to only some
Libertys. Assuming that everyone is an idiot is idiotic in itself.

I also most certainly know that "ALL" JEEPs have their pros and cons and
factory defects, recalls, etc, etc...
Even my old '97 JGCL had numerous recalls and TSBs all taken care of and
never a problem since. Im hoping for the same with this one of which I have
a list of all repairs made to the vehicle including recalls and TSBs. And
get used to it buddy because the Europeans have taken over something many of
us hold sacred, that being JEEP.


--HM


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4165638D.CE2B6628@sympatico.ca...
>I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.

>
> Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.




TechCityPC.com 10-07-2004 08:26 PM

Re: 2002 JEEP Liberty LIMETED Edition
 
OMG! And did after all this did a swarm of locust descend on your village!
Holy Jesus man. It's used for starters, meaning alot of this has already
happend and been replaced and or repaired. I did do my home work and found
the same stuff you "found" because I don't believe any of this has happend
to you personally and I know that only some of that applys to only some
Libertys. Assuming that everyone is an idiot is idiotic in itself.

I also most certainly know that "ALL" JEEPs have their pros and cons and
factory defects, recalls, etc, etc...
Even my old '97 JGCL had numerous recalls and TSBs all taken care of and
never a problem since. Im hoping for the same with this one of which I have
a list of all repairs made to the vehicle including recalls and TSBs. And
get used to it buddy because the Europeans have taken over something many of
us hold sacred, that being JEEP.


--HM


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4165638D.CE2B6628@sympatico.ca...
>I always wonder why folks don't just spend a little time to do a little
> homework....
>
> Anyway.....
>
> Your AC will leak on the passenger side, your clutch will slip, you
> won't be able to open the gas cap to put gas in it, your tranny might
> have the wrong mount and fall out, the bug deflector is going to whistle
> like a bugger, you won't be able to put the rear seat back up, the front
> bumper will squeak, so will the park brake cables, the keyless entry is
> going to be a headache, your CPS is going to go ---- up like the new
> Wrangler's, the power steering isn't going to work if you are in a hurry
> to turn right, all the inside dash and top lights will flicker, the
> 'aluminum' rims are going to rust, it won't start in park, the rear
> window will leak, the carpet will fall apart, the radio antenna is going
> to break, the power window switch will come loose, the rear window won't
> open unless the battery is full, the engine main ground wire will come
> loose, the exhaust is going to rattle, someone sprayed eau du skunk in a
> bunch at the factory, and the Auto tranny needs a special fluid.
>
> Then we come to the 'real' fun stuff....
>
> Your air bag can/will explode when you don't want it too if someone
> bumps your fender sideways, your dash can/will fall off freaking you out
> to the point of having an accident and your front wheels will fall off!
>
> Looks like you bought yourself a winner. LOL! ;-)
>
> All this info is publicly available at:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>>
>> I did consider it, but I saw a chance to economize and jumped.

>
> Tons of 'off topic' BS snipped.





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