2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
03-04-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
contact type
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-04-2006, 06:38 PM
#32
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
contact type
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-04-2006, 06:38 PM
#33
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
contact type
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
> Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
>
> Mike
>
> philthy wrote:
> >
> > the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > > modules.
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > > >
> > > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > > >
> > > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > > >
> > > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > > but someone here might know)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > > >> not free themselves.
> > > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-06-2006, 01:07 PM
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Thanks for all the tips guys, I'm sorting through the manual that Billy
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
03-06-2006, 01:07 PM
#35
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Thanks for all the tips guys, I'm sorting through the manual that Billy
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
03-06-2006, 01:07 PM
#36
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Thanks for all the tips guys, I'm sorting through the manual that Billy
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
03-06-2006, 01:07 PM
#37
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Thanks for all the tips guys, I'm sorting through the manual that Billy
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
Ray sent butI may just
order a motor from rockauto.com and hopre that will fix it. I may also
pull the motor and have
our electrician at work test it.
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