2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
03-03-2006, 12:57 PM
#11
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 12:57 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 12:57 PM
#13
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
billy ray wrote:
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
#14
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
#15
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Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
Is it an electronic switch or the brass ring to ground type?
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
Mike
philthy wrote:
>
> the wiper motor has a park switch in it and it's now damaged
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
> > Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> > Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > > modules.
> > >
> > > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> > >
> > > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> > >
> > > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> > >
> > > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > > but someone here might know)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> > >> not free themselves.
> > >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> > >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> > >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> > >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> > >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> > >> so what is the correct fix.
> > >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 02:38 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
That is a cool sheet. The park is electronic so I would suspect that
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 02:38 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
That is a cool sheet. The park is electronic so I would suspect that
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
03-03-2006, 02:38 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2002 Grand Cherokeewipers
That is a cool sheet. The park is electronic so I would suspect that
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike
let the smoke out. At least it is easy to test.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, I just sent him the '02 WJ wiper electrical diagnosis info.
> Hopefully he will let us know what he finds.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44086C3D.20E40238@sympatico.ca...
> > That is the biggest killer of the control modules and intermittent
> > modules.
> >
> > For some strange reason, the modules aren't fused and when the wiper
> > motor sits under load drawing 20+ amps, it lets the smoke out of them.
> >
> > My CJ7's is like that and the $tealer want damn near $500.00 for a new
> > intermittent module. Mine still park though. My module has smoked out
> > diodes in it. A couple 50 cent parts....
> >
> > The motor (mine is anyway) is like the GM one I believe with a unique
> > ground for the brass ring to park the motor. You 'could' have burned a
> > spot on the brass parking ring so the ground is open and they just stop
> > when the switch is off. Some solder would fix that up....
> >
> > I think opening up either the motor or the module is needed to find out
> > which one when belly up unless there is some code they throw. (unlikely,
> > but someone here might know)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > mike8732y@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> During a recent ice storm my wipers were locked in the ice and could
> >> not free themselves.
> >> After I freed them with the scraper they won't park properly, that is
> >> they don't home at the end of a cycle. I have been told that I need
> >> either a new motor or a control module. My
> >> background with GM cars tells me that I have a bad ground to the motor
> >> but that doesn't seem to apply here. Has anyone had this problem and if
> >> so what is the correct fix.
> >> Thanks in advance, Mike