Welcome, Andy.
This is (mostly) a great group. As long as you show yourself to be a
straight up guy, you will be treated with respect (mostly) along with lots
of wisecracks and digs...

--
Jim

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rURkb.509872$2x.214643@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
> Hi everybody,
>
> First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over the road
> truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and using
> my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
questions
> to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed many
times
> but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
>
> I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5 speed, six
> cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
groups.
> I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.

Sounds like a great combo to me.

>
> 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
Rubicon.
> I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow bar)
and
> off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?

My personal opinion is that a 4" lift along with 33" tires is an excellent
combination for on and off road. A 1" body lift will allow some extra
clearance as well as allowing other mods like a belly up skidplate, raising
the gas tank with a kilby gas tank skid, and 1" raised motor mounts in order
to improve your rear driveline angles. Tera and RE are excellent brands,
there are some others, too. Look for completeness. (You'll probably want a
Slip Yoke Eliminator (SYE) with a 4" lift)

>
> 2. Tires? What size and brand.

A lot of opinions on this one. Depends on what kind of wheeling you do.
Overall, I believe the Goodyear MT/R is an excellent all purpose tire. BFG
ATs and MTs are also very popular.

>
> 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit elec.?

Can make a huge difference. If you're not going to regear, I'd choose one
of the lockers like the Detroit that (I believe) be installed without having
to re set you gears.

>
> What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off road use.
> Winch, what brand?

There are a number of good brands and the "discussion" of "electric vs.
hydraulic" is on going. For electric, many here like Warn. Good quality
and customer service. Get one that is rated at least twice your vehicle's
weight. (a 4500 lb winch will not get your 4000 lb jeep out of axle deep
mud!)

>
> Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We love our
> Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing things
stock.
> This is our third Jeep.

Enjoy. Have fun and let us know how you're doing.

>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Welcome, Andy.
This is (mostly) a great group. As long as you show yourself to be a
straight up guy, you will be treated with respect (mostly) along with lots
of wisecracks and digs...

--
Jim

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rURkb.509872$2x.214643@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
> Hi everybody,
>
> First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over the road
> truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and using
> my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
questions
> to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed many
times
> but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
>
> I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5 speed, six
> cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
groups.
> I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.

Sounds like a great combo to me.

>
> 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
Rubicon.
> I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow bar)
and
> off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?

My personal opinion is that a 4" lift along with 33" tires is an excellent
combination for on and off road. A 1" body lift will allow some extra
clearance as well as allowing other mods like a belly up skidplate, raising
the gas tank with a kilby gas tank skid, and 1" raised motor mounts in order
to improve your rear driveline angles. Tera and RE are excellent brands,
there are some others, too. Look for completeness. (You'll probably want a
Slip Yoke Eliminator (SYE) with a 4" lift)

>
> 2. Tires? What size and brand.

A lot of opinions on this one. Depends on what kind of wheeling you do.
Overall, I believe the Goodyear MT/R is an excellent all purpose tire. BFG
ATs and MTs are also very popular.

>
> 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit elec.?

Can make a huge difference. If you're not going to regear, I'd choose one
of the lockers like the Detroit that (I believe) be installed without having
to re set you gears.

>
> What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off road use.
> Winch, what brand?

There are a number of good brands and the "discussion" of "electric vs.
hydraulic" is on going. For electric, many here like Warn. Good quality
and customer service. Get one that is rated at least twice your vehicle's
weight. (a 4500 lb winch will not get your 4000 lb jeep out of axle deep
mud!)

>
> Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We love our
> Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing things
stock.
> This is our third Jeep.

Enjoy. Have fun and let us know how you're doing.

>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Andy,
People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
"versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
figure out what he means. :-)
Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
there...
You'll get used to it. ;-)
If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him. He's
just jealous.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy
>
> "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
float
> > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
optioned
> my
> > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
with
> > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it
a
> > > Rubicon. HA!
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > > don't exist...
> > > >
> > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > >
> > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
Tera
> > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> offroad
> > > > use here would help.
> > > ************************************************** ******
> > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > Tellico
> > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
do
> > some
> > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> > Jeep
> > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
stock.
> > I
> > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
> the
> > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
33s
> go
> > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> Goodyear
> > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
aftermarket
> > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
your
> > > > swaybar.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
not
> > for
> > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> > dirt.
> > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > change
> > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will
I
> > need
> > > a body lift??
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > >
> > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
Rubicon
> > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> opinions
> > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> saver,
> > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> with
> > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > ************************************************** ***
> > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
> diff
> > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
these
> > and
> > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > ************************************************** *******
> > > >
> > > > JMHO!
> > >
> > > You Bet!
> > > >
> > > > Andy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
> the
> > > road
> > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
and
> > > using
> > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > > questions
> > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> many
> > > times
> > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> speed,
> > > six
> > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
some
> > > groups.
> > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
Emu,
> > > Rubicon.
> > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> > bar)
> > > and
> > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
the
> > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> elec.?
> > > > >
> > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> road
> > > use.
> > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
> love
> > > our
> > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> things
> > > stock.
> > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Andy,
People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
"versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
figure out what he means. :-)
Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
there...
You'll get used to it. ;-)
If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him. He's
just jealous.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy
>
> "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
float
> > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
optioned
> my
> > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
with
> > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it
a
> > > Rubicon. HA!
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > > don't exist...
> > > >
> > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > >
> > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
Tera
> > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> offroad
> > > > use here would help.
> > > ************************************************** ******
> > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > Tellico
> > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
do
> > some
> > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> > Jeep
> > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
stock.
> > I
> > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
> the
> > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
33s
> go
> > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> Goodyear
> > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
aftermarket
> > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
your
> > > > swaybar.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
not
> > for
> > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> > dirt.
> > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > change
> > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will
I
> > need
> > > a body lift??
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > >
> > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
Rubicon
> > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> opinions
> > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> saver,
> > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> with
> > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > ************************************************** ***
> > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
> diff
> > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
these
> > and
> > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > ************************************************** *******
> > > >
> > > > JMHO!
> > >
> > > You Bet!
> > > >
> > > > Andy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
> the
> > > road
> > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
and
> > > using
> > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > > questions
> > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> many
> > > times
> > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> speed,
> > > six
> > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
some
> > > groups.
> > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
Emu,
> > > Rubicon.
> > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> > bar)
> > > and
> > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
the
> > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> elec.?
> > > > >
> > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> road
> > > use.
> > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
> love
> > > our
> > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> things
> > > stock.
> > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Andy,
People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
"versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
figure out what he means. :-)
Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
there...
You'll get used to it. ;-)
If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him. He's
just jealous.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy
>
> "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
float
> > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
optioned
> my
> > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
with
> > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it
a
> > > Rubicon. HA!
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > > don't exist...
> > > >
> > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > >
> > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
Tera
> > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> offroad
> > > > use here would help.
> > > ************************************************** ******
> > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > Tellico
> > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
do
> > some
> > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> > Jeep
> > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
stock.
> > I
> > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
> the
> > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
33s
> go
> > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> Goodyear
> > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
aftermarket
> > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
your
> > > > swaybar.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
not
> > for
> > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> > dirt.
> > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > change
> > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will
I
> > need
> > > a body lift??
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > >
> > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
Rubicon
> > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> opinions
> > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> saver,
> > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> with
> > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > ************************************************** ***
> > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
> diff
> > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
these
> > and
> > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > ************************************************** *******
> > > >
> > > > JMHO!
> > >
> > > You Bet!
> > > >
> > > > Andy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
> the
> > > road
> > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
and
> > > using
> > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > > questions
> > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> many
> > > times
> > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> speed,
> > > six
> > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
some
> > > groups.
> > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
Emu,
> > > Rubicon.
> > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> > bar)
> > > and
> > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
the
> > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> elec.?
> > > > >
> > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> road
> > > use.
> > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
> love
> > > our
> > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> things
> > > stock.
> > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Hi Jim,

Yes, I've seen very funny stuff here. You guys/gals are great. Tell Bill I
had a "real" Jeep a while ago. It was a CJ7, 1979, with a 258 that was
rebuilt with Clifford cam, intake and header(s). A Weber carb to boot. It
had the famous 4 speed T4? that in low range, and in first, would walk. I
rode that Jeep everywhere. I actually put it in the back of my tractor
trailer sometimes when I went West. Sadly it rusted and I had to do
something. It was either fiberglass or by one of those "new" TJ's that were
the rage. So, in 2001 I purchased the TJ. Now in 2003 I want to build it.
My thoughts are it will never be the CJ. That 258 was strong.

There is a 79 CJ7 on eBay with a 304, rust free.

I have a question for you.. Would 33's be OK for me with 3.73 gears?

Andy
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HP2dnUZlLrxVwQiiRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> Andy,
> People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
> "versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
> figure out what he means. :-)
> Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
> Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
> there...
> You'll get used to it. ;-)
> If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him.
He's
> just jealous.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> > Mike,
> >
> > What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if
you
> > corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> > corners and never back up.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
> float
> > > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
> optioned
> > my
> > > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have
seen
> > > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
> with
> > > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make
it
> a
> > > > Rubicon. HA!
> > > >
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions".
They
> > > > > don't exist...
> > > > >
> > > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will
you
> > > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or
not
> > > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
> Tera
> > > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> > offroad
> > > > > use here would help.
> > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > > Tellico
> > > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
> do
> > > some
> > > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to
many
> > > Jeep
> > > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
> stock.
> > > I
> > > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners
on
> > the
> > > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with
lift
> > > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
> 33s
> > go
> > > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> > Goodyear
> > > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
> aftermarket
> > > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
> your
> > > > > swaybar.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
> not
> > > for
> > > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and
loose
> > > dirt.
> > > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > > change
> > > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or
will
> I
> > > need
> > > > a body lift??
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
> Rubicon
> > > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> > opinions
> > > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> > saver,
> > > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> > with
> > > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > > ************************************************** ***
> > > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an
open
> > diff
> > > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
> these
> > > and
> > > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork
in
> > > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > > ************************************************** *******
> > > > >
> > > > > JMHO!
> > > >
> > > > You Bet!
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an
over
> > the
> > > > road
> > > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
> and
> > > > using
> > > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these
stupid
> > > > questions
> > > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> > many
> > > > times
> > > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> > speed,
> > > > six
> > > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
> some
> > > > groups.
> > > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
> Emu,
> > > > Rubicon.
> > > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with
tow
> > > bar)
> > > > and
> > > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
> the
> > > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> > elec.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> > road
> > > > use.
> > > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife.
We
> > love
> > > > our
> > > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> > things
> > > > stock.
> > > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Hi Jim,

Yes, I've seen very funny stuff here. You guys/gals are great. Tell Bill I
had a "real" Jeep a while ago. It was a CJ7, 1979, with a 258 that was
rebuilt with Clifford cam, intake and header(s). A Weber carb to boot. It
had the famous 4 speed T4? that in low range, and in first, would walk. I
rode that Jeep everywhere. I actually put it in the back of my tractor
trailer sometimes when I went West. Sadly it rusted and I had to do
something. It was either fiberglass or by one of those "new" TJ's that were
the rage. So, in 2001 I purchased the TJ. Now in 2003 I want to build it.
My thoughts are it will never be the CJ. That 258 was strong.

There is a 79 CJ7 on eBay with a 304, rust free.

I have a question for you.. Would 33's be OK for me with 3.73 gears?

Andy
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HP2dnUZlLrxVwQiiRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> Andy,
> People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
> "versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
> figure out what he means. :-)
> Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
> Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
> there...
> You'll get used to it. ;-)
> If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him.
He's
> just jealous.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> > Mike,
> >
> > What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if
you
> > corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> > corners and never back up.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
> float
> > > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
> optioned
> > my
> > > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have
seen
> > > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
> with
> > > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make
it
> a
> > > > Rubicon. HA!
> > > >
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions".
They
> > > > > don't exist...
> > > > >
> > > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will
you
> > > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or
not
> > > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
> Tera
> > > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> > offroad
> > > > > use here would help.
> > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > > Tellico
> > > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
> do
> > > some
> > > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to
many
> > > Jeep
> > > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
> stock.
> > > I
> > > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners
on
> > the
> > > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with
lift
> > > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
> 33s
> > go
> > > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> > Goodyear
> > > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
> aftermarket
> > > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
> your
> > > > > swaybar.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
> not
> > > for
> > > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and
loose
> > > dirt.
> > > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > > change
> > > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or
will
> I
> > > need
> > > > a body lift??
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
> Rubicon
> > > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> > opinions
> > > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> > saver,
> > > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> > with
> > > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > > ************************************************** ***
> > > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an
open
> > diff
> > > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
> these
> > > and
> > > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork
in
> > > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > > ************************************************** *******
> > > > >
> > > > > JMHO!
> > > >
> > > > You Bet!
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an
over
> > the
> > > > road
> > > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
> and
> > > > using
> > > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these
stupid
> > > > questions
> > > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> > many
> > > > times
> > > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> > speed,
> > > > six
> > > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
> some
> > > > groups.
> > > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
> Emu,
> > > > Rubicon.
> > > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with
tow
> > > bar)
> > > > and
> > > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
> the
> > > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> > elec.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> > road
> > > > use.
> > > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife.
We
> > love
> > > > our
> > > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> > things
> > > > stock.
> > > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Hi Jim,

Yes, I've seen very funny stuff here. You guys/gals are great. Tell Bill I
had a "real" Jeep a while ago. It was a CJ7, 1979, with a 258 that was
rebuilt with Clifford cam, intake and header(s). A Weber carb to boot. It
had the famous 4 speed T4? that in low range, and in first, would walk. I
rode that Jeep everywhere. I actually put it in the back of my tractor
trailer sometimes when I went West. Sadly it rusted and I had to do
something. It was either fiberglass or by one of those "new" TJ's that were
the rage. So, in 2001 I purchased the TJ. Now in 2003 I want to build it.
My thoughts are it will never be the CJ. That 258 was strong.

There is a 79 CJ7 on eBay with a 304, rust free.

I have a question for you.. Would 33's be OK for me with 3.73 gears?

Andy
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HP2dnUZlLrxVwQiiRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> Andy,
> People type funny things here. Mike tends to say "vice" instead of
> "versus". I don't know why, but, once you get use to it, you can easily
> figure out what he means. :-)
> Some people "brake" things and replace their "break" shoes.
> Then there's the "their" "there" and "they're" confusion.... We won't go
> there...
> You'll get used to it. ;-)
> If Bill tells you that you don't have a "real jeep", just ignore him.
He's
> just jealous.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:PCZkb.831618$Ho3.234229@sccrnsc03...
> > Mike,
> >
> > What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if
you
> > corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> > corners and never back up.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > "Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a
> float
> > > trailer vice towing your TJ.
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > > > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I
> optioned
> > my
> > > > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have
seen
> > > > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills
> with
> > > > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make
it
> a
> > > > Rubicon. HA!
> > > >
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions".
They
> > > > > don't exist...
> > > > >
> > > > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will
you
> > > > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or
not
> > > > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit.
> Tera
> > > > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
> > offroad
> > > > > use here would help.
> > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> > > Tellico
> > > > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't
> do
> > > some
> > > > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to
many
> > > Jeep
> > > > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as
> stock.
> > > I
> > > > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners
on
> > the
> > > > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with
lift
> > > > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and
> 33s
> > go
> > > > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
> > Goodyear
> > > > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some
> aftermarket
> > > > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect
> your
> > > > > swaybar.
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but
> not
> > > for
> > > > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and
loose
> > > dirt.
> > > > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> > > change
> > > > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or
will
> I
> > > need
> > > > a body lift??
> > > > ************************************************** ****
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My
> Rubicon
> > > > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
> > opinions
> > > > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
> > saver,
> > > > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
> > with
> > > > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > > > ************************************************** ***
> > > > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an
open
> > diff
> > > > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of
> these
> > > and
> > > > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork
in
> > > > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > > > ************************************************** *******
> > > > >
> > > > > JMHO!
> > > >
> > > > You Bet!
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an
over
> > the
> > > > road
> > > > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often
> and
> > > > using
> > > > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these
stupid
> > > > questions
> > > > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
> > many
> > > > times
> > > > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
> > speed,
> > > > six
> > > > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in
> some
> > > > groups.
> > > > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man
> Emu,
> > > > Rubicon.
> > > > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with
tow
> > > bar)
> > > > and
> > > > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on
> the
> > > > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
> > elec.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
> > road
> > > > use.
> > > > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife.
We
> > love
> > > > our
> > > > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
> > things
> > > > stock.
> > > > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
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