2001 TJ Sport build-up help
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Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Andy wrote:
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________
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Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Andy wrote:
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
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Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Andy wrote:
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
We have seen
> numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> Rubicon. HA!
Nothing wrong with that!
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>
>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>use here would help.
>
> ************************************************** ******
> I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and Tellico
> in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do some
> of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many Jeep
> owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock. I
> drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on the
> road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
>>************************************************ ******
>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>swaybar.
>
> ************************************************** ****
> I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not for
> off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose dirt.
> Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to change
> wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I need
> a body lift??
> ************************************************** ****
With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
lift and 32/33s.
>
>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>someone else if at all possible!!
>
> ************************************************** ***
> Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open diff
> for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these and
> put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
Do tell.... :)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
wanting to complete it.
Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
(just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Andy wrote:
>
> We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> >>
> >>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> >>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> >>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> >>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> >>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
> >>use here would help.
> >
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>
> You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
> and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
> std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
> claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
> disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
> stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
> happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>
> >
> >>************************************************ ******
> >>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> >>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
> >>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
> >>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> >>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> >>swaybar.
> >
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
>
> With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
> mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
> perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
> well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
> 33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
> wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
> with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
> and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
> on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
> off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
> dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
> big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
> lift and 32/33s.
>
>
> >
> >>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> >>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> >>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
> >>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
> >>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
> >>someone else if at all possible!!
> >
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>
>
> Do tell.... :)
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
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Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Hey Mike,
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Hey Mike,
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
Hey Mike,
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
You mean transport it on a trailer?
"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Sport build-up help
I haven't heard of it, but it sounds fun. That's only a full days drive
for me so I might try it sometime. Just got back from Nashville in the
XJ, but unfortunately it was not a 4WD trip. :)
Just Empty Every Pocket...yes, but somehow it's more fun than spending
money on landscaping...
Andy wrote:
> Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
> One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
> bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
>
> The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
> found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
> around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
> mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
> on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
> and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
> across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
> said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
> would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
> just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
> wanting to complete it.
>
> Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
> (just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>> We have seen
>>
>>>numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
>>>lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
>>>Rubicon. HA!
>>
>>Nothing wrong with that!
>>
>>
>>
>>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>>>
>>>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>>>use here would help.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *********
>>>I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
>
> Tellico
>
>>>in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
>
> some
>
>>>of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
>
> Jeep
>
>>>owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
>
> I
>
>>>drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
>
> the
>
>>>road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>>
>>You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
>>and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
>>std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
>>claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
>>disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
>>stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
>>happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>>
>>
>>>>********************************************** ********
>>>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>>>swaybar.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>>I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
>
> for
>
>>>off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
>
> dirt.
>
>>>Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
>
> change
>
>>>wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
>
> need
>
>>>a body lift??
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>
>>With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
>>mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
>>perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
>>well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
>>33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
>>wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
>>with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
>>and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
>>on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
>>off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
>>dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
>>big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
>>lift and 32/33s.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>>>someone else if at all possible!!
>>>
>>>*********************************************** ******
>>>Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
>
> diff
>
>>>for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
>
> and
>
>>>put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
>>>Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>>
>>
>>Do tell.... :)
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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for me so I might try it sometime. Just got back from Nashville in the
XJ, but unfortunately it was not a 4WD trip. :)
Just Empty Every Pocket...yes, but somehow it's more fun than spending
money on landscaping...
Andy wrote:
> Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
> One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
> bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
>
> The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
> found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
> around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
> mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
> on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
> and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
> across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
> said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
> would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
> just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
> wanting to complete it.
>
> Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
> (just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
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>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
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>>Andy wrote:
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>> We have seen
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>>>numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
>>>lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
>>>Rubicon. HA!
>>
>>Nothing wrong with that!
>>
>>
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>>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>>>
>>>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>>>use here would help.
>>>
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>>>I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
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> Tellico
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>>>in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
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> some
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>>>of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
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> Jeep
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>>>owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
>
> I
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>>>drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
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> the
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>>>road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>>
>>You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
>>and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
>>std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
>>claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
>>disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
>>stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
>>happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>>
>>
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>>>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>>>swaybar.
>>>
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>>>I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
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> for
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>>>off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
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> dirt.
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>>>Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
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> change
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>>>wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
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> need
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>>>a body lift??
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>>With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
>>mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
>>perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
>>well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
>>33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
>>wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
>>with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
>>and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
>>on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
>>off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
>>dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
>>big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
>>lift and 32/33s.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>>>someone else if at all possible!!
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>>>Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
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> diff
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>>>for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
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> and
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>>>put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
>>>Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>>
>>
>>Do tell.... :)
>>
>>
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>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
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03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
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