Mike Hall

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



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"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Mike Hall

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

mabar

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

mabar

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

mabar

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

Smegma Breath

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Smegma Breath

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Smegma Breath

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

twaldron

I can see how that would be a tough decision to lose such a moniker. How
about "Festering Pus Hole" or "Oozing Shanker"? Ok, ok, not good
either. I do notice that your mostly legitimate posts get lost in
comments about your handle, so I think you're making the right move. Let
us know what it is when you do it.

Smegma Breath wrote:
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).

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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

I can see how that would be a tough decision to lose such a moniker. How
about "Festering Pus Hole" or "Oozing Shanker"? Ok, ok, not good
either. I do notice that your mostly legitimate posts get lost in
comments about your handle, so I think you're making the right move. Let
us know what it is when you do it.

Smegma Breath wrote:
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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