1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
transmission.

It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
shift down to 1st gear.

I also get an error code 37, which is listed as

"torque
converter solenoid circuit fault")..


Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
problem ??


thanks for any tips and advice !!


James

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James

James,

The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....

2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.

Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.

The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.

Jon

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James

James,

The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....

2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.

Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.

The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.

Jon

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James

James,

The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....

2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.

Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.

The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.

Jon

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James

James,

The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....

2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.

Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.

The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.

Jon

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??

Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.

How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??

Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.

How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??

Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.

How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??

Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.

How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
normal, and not not dirty or black looking.


Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
etc.

Thanks again for the replies.

James

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
normal, and not not dirty or black looking.


Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
etc.

Thanks again for the replies.

James

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
normal, and not not dirty or black looking.


Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
etc.

Thanks again for the replies.

James

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
normal, and not not dirty or black looking.


Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
etc.

Thanks again for the replies.

James

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission
> fluid has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked
> it and it is normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it
> first started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from
> 2nd to 3rd etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may
> have a worse problem than I thought. I will have to do more
> testing about clearing the code etc.

You likely have the TCU locking out gears to prevent possible damage.
I know this happens for overdrive in the 93 but 97 is a more advanced
system.

hmm...

Have you had the trasmission filter changed? I assume they did this
at the same time they changed fluid. Wonder if the pickup wasn't
put back in or they missed something on reassembly.

Not your vehicle but might be interesting to read.
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/...ad.php?t=67956
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm

How's the kickdown cable? Runs from transmission to the throttle
body. If it broke there can be problems with shifting. Usually
it's just dragging/slipping, not loss of a gear, but ..shrug.. worth
a look.

--
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HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission
> fluid has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked
> it and it is normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it
> first started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from
> 2nd to 3rd etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may
> have a worse problem than I thought. I will have to do more
> testing about clearing the code etc.

You likely have the TCU locking out gears to prevent possible damage.
I know this happens for overdrive in the 93 but 97 is a more advanced
system.

hmm...

Have you had the trasmission filter changed? I assume they did this
at the same time they changed fluid. Wonder if the pickup wasn't
put back in or they missed something on reassembly.

Not your vehicle but might be interesting to read.
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/...ad.php?t=67956
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm

How's the kickdown cable? Runs from transmission to the throttle
body. If it broke there can be problems with shifting. Usually
it's just dragging/slipping, not loss of a gear, but ..shrug.. worth
a look.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission
> fluid has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked
> it and it is normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it
> first started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from
> 2nd to 3rd etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may
> have a worse problem than I thought. I will have to do more
> testing about clearing the code etc.

You likely have the TCU locking out gears to prevent possible damage.
I know this happens for overdrive in the 93 but 97 is a more advanced
system.

hmm...

Have you had the trasmission filter changed? I assume they did this
at the same time they changed fluid. Wonder if the pickup wasn't
put back in or they missed something on reassembly.

Not your vehicle but might be interesting to read.
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/...ad.php?t=67956
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm

How's the kickdown cable? Runs from transmission to the throttle
body. If it broke there can be problems with shifting. Usually
it's just dragging/slipping, not loss of a gear, but ..shrug.. worth
a look.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission
> fluid has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked
> it and it is normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it
> first started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from
> 2nd to 3rd etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may
> have a worse problem than I thought. I will have to do more
> testing about clearing the code etc.

You likely have the TCU locking out gears to prevent possible damage.
I know this happens for overdrive in the 93 but 97 is a more advanced
system.

hmm...

Have you had the trasmission filter changed? I assume they did this
at the same time they changed fluid. Wonder if the pickup wasn't
put back in or they missed something on reassembly.

Not your vehicle but might be interesting to read.
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/...ad.php?t=67956
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm

How's the kickdown cable? Runs from transmission to the throttle
body. If it broke there can be problems with shifting. Usually
it's just dragging/slipping, not loss of a gear, but ..shrug.. worth
a look.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

That is 'limp home mode'.

I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift points
and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
> has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
> normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
> started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
> etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
> than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
> etc.
>
> Thanks again for the replies.
>
> James
>
>

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

That is 'limp home mode'.

I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift points
and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
> has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
> normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
> started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
> etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
> than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
> etc.
>
> Thanks again for the replies.
>
> James
>
>

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

That is 'limp home mode'.

I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift points
and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
> has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
> normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
> started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
> etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
> than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
> etc.
>
> Thanks again for the replies.
>
> James
>
>

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

That is 'limp home mode'.

I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift points
and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

James wrote:
> Thanks to Doug, Bill and Jon for helpful replies. My transmission fluid
> has been changed within the last 10,000 miles. I have checked it and it is
> normal, and not not dirty or black looking.
>
>
> Since I made the first post, the Jeep is now stuck in 2nd. When it first
> started several days ago, it just lost 1st, but did ok from 2nd to 3rd
> etc. But now it is locked in 2nd, so I guess I may have a worse problem
> than I thought. I will have to do more testing about clearing the code
> etc.
>
> Thanks again for the replies.
>
> James
>
>

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> That is 'limp home mode'.
>
> I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

That's a good point.

I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
(or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> That is 'limp home mode'.
>
> I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

That's a good point.

I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
(or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> That is 'limp home mode'.
>
> I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

That's a good point.

I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
(or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> That is 'limp home mode'.
>
> I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.

That's a good point.

I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
(or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)

--
DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:12:09 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:>http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
:>news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
:>>
:>>
:>> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
:>> transmission.
:>>
:>> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
:>not
:>> shift down to 1st gear.
:>>
:>> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
:>>
:>> "torque
:>> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
:>>
:>>
:>> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
:>> problem ??
:>>
:>>
:>> thanks for any tips and advice !!
:>>
:>>
:>> James
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:12:09 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:>http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
:>news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
:>>
:>>
:>> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
:>> transmission.
:>>
:>> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
:>not
:>> shift down to 1st gear.
:>>
:>> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
:>>
:>> "torque
:>> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
:>>
:>>
:>> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
:>> problem ??
:>>
:>>
:>> thanks for any tips and advice !!
:>>
:>>
:>> James
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:12:09 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:>http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
:>news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
:>>
:>>
:>> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
:>> transmission.
:>>
:>> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
:>not
:>> shift down to 1st gear.
:>>
:>> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
:>>
:>> "torque
:>> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
:>>
:>>
:>> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
:>> problem ??
:>>
:>>
:>> thanks for any tips and advice !!
:>>
:>>
:>> James
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:12:09 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

:>http://www.transonline.com/transdige...ers/index.html
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
:>news:Ytadnf_C7OXsNxTbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
:>>
:>>
:>> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
:>> transmission.
:>>
:>> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
:>not
:>> shift down to 1st gear.
:>>
:>> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
:>>
:>> "torque
:>> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
:>>
:>>
:>> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
:>> problem ??
:>>
:>>
:>> thanks for any tips and advice !!
:>>
:>>
:>> James
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>


L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net:

Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
news:5oul83hu9putj18rkn5n1k27dh14tp4hai@4ax.com...
><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
news:5oul83hu9putj18rkn5n1k27dh14tp4hai@4ax.com...
><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem (Nothing to say of any relevance, just C&P Crap)
 

There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"24Bit®" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
news:5oul83hu9putj18rkn5n1k27dh14tp4hai@4ax.com...
><snip queer fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous senile
babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>



--
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

can you say valve body??

DougW wrote:

> Mike Romain wrote:
> > That is 'limp home mode'.
> >
> > I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> > contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> > points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.
>
> That's a good point.
>
> I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
> Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
> (or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

can you say valve body??

DougW wrote:

> Mike Romain wrote:
> > That is 'limp home mode'.
> >
> > I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> > contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> > points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.
>
> That's a good point.
>
> I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
> Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
> (or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)
>
> --
> DougW

Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
 

can you say valve body??

DougW wrote:

> Mike Romain wrote:
> > That is 'limp home mode'.
> >
> > I would clean the TPS power connection with WD40 or better a spray
> > contact cleaner just for the heck of it because it controls shift
> > points and on the 4.0 anyway is known to get a bad connection.
>
> That's a good point.
>
> I'd be checking and cleaning the transmission connection as well.
> Never know if it was removed and not put on quite right.
> (or missing a retaining screw/clip/etc)
>
> --
> DougW