1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
07-02-2007, 09:46 PM
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1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
transmission.
It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
shift down to 1st gear.
I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
"torque
converter solenoid circuit fault")..
Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
problem ??
thanks for any tips and advice !!
James
07-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
07-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
07-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
07-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
On Jul 2, 6:46 pm, "James" <jnipper...@nospamfdn.com> wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
> James
James,
The TCC solenoid circuit/unit failing by itself is not indicative of
fatal transmission problems. If the computer has the ability to
recognize the status of the tcc circuit (as on/off & complete) and
monitor the resulting engine RPMs, it may throw the same code --- I
can't recall if it did or not in my 4xRE failure. Suffice it to say,
if the circuit and solenoid are fine and the TCC has broken up, you've
got bigger problems on your hands. Are you able to confirm that, for
any length of time, your torque converter lock-up function has been
inoperative? ... because there is some documentation that talks about
that code being triggered by a (non-existant in some models) trans.
fluid temperature sensor.....
2nd gear from stop is commonly indicative of another problem related
to governor pressure solenoid/sensor function....not a unique problem.
Of course, if your symptoms confirm TCC circuit issues and showed up
at the same time as 2nd gear starts, then you might have leakage from
one passage to another at a gasketed joint, for example -- or perhaps
a leak resulting in low governed pressure can trigger both issues.
Try the people at alt.autos.dodge.trucks, they've got plenty of
experience with transmission failures.
The aformentioned parts still don't come cheap, so it's worth the $75
diagnostic fee before a shotgun repair.
Jon
07-03-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
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>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It will
not
> shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure the
> problem ??
>
>
> thanks for any tips and advice !!
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: 1997 Jeep Grane Cherokee/ Transmission problem
James wrote:
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??
Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.
How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?
--
DougW
> I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 L engine and 44 RE
> transmission.
>
> It will not go into 1st gear. It starts out in 2nd gear. It
> will not shift down to 1st gear.
>
> I also get an error code 37, which is listed as
>
> "torque
> converter solenoid circuit fault")..
>
>
> Have I lost my transmission, or is there a bad solenoid that may cure
> the problem ??
Hard to tell without looking.
Could be as simple as a bad solenoid, wiring problem, or sticking valve.
How long has it been since you changed transmission fluid and is the
fluid level too high or low?
--
DougW