1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
#11
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
OK it seems you've found they shouldn't be trusted to work on your lawn
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
#12
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
OK it seems you've found they shouldn't be trusted to work on your lawn
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
#13
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
OK it seems you've found they shouldn't be trusted to work on your lawn
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
mower. So how about getting the codes read from the computer? autoZone and
Advanced Auto Parts rent/lend scanners. I think on the 96 you can get the
dash board to give it to you in a flashing light type fashion. But the
reader eliminates guess work as to the exact code. With that info you can
begin to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It could be a vacuum line
off somewhere. It's possible that over filling had nothing to with the
problem. But a monkey in the engine bay knocked something off. Get the code
and check back here.
JoBo
"js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> any suggestions?
>
#14
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
The best thing, would have been to have a third party shop, drain the oil
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
#15
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
The best thing, would have been to have a third party shop, drain the oil
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
The best thing, would have been to have a third party shop, drain the oil
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
out and document on the invoice that the vehicle had been overfilled. (If
this ever happens to you, get a paper trail of what happened.)
If the check engine light is on, there are codes to be read. What are they?
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BpNgf.225231$lI5.115469@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> Inform them of their mistake and ask the name of their insurance company
and
> how they intend to rectify the problems with your jeep.
>
> JoBo
>
> "js" <jnj721@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1132699662.117006.46890@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > firestone changed the oil and i drove the jeep for about 800 miles
> > before i emptied it and put the right amount in. now i've got black
> > smoke, engine hesitation and a check engine light on.
> > changed the plugs and oil covered air filter, put in fuel injector
> > cleaner but it rides like crap now.
> > any suggestions?
> >
>
>
#17
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
i drained the oil myself (no documentation) and i've been to two
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
i drained the oil myself (no documentation) and i've been to two
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
i drained the oil myself (no documentation) and i've been to two
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
their computer.
i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
myself and then for not draining it sooner.
i'm gonna try another autozone today.
the check engine light has been on since this happened. it went off
yesterday for about 50 highway miles and came on again after restarting.
#20
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Re: 1996 cherokee overfilled crankcase
> i drained the oil myself (no documentation) and i've been to two
> autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
> their computer.
> i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
> black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
> the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
> a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
> myself and then for not draining it sooner.
> i'm gonna try another autozone today.
Do this, find out exactly how much oil is supposed to be used. Bring the
factory documentation that states it. Ask their service manager what amount
their database tells them to use. If they're different and their database
is erring on the high-side then you certainly have a reasonable case to
demand a refund, along with potentially an investigation as to what's caused
the problems you now have. Make it clear, you want the vehicle fixed and if
they won't that you'll file a claim against them for the work you'll have
done elsewhere.
What might be worse is they never bothered to actually drain the old oil and
ended up doubling the capacity. As always, when going in for an oil change
I find it's good to put a scratch of some sort on the existing oil filter
and check your oil level on the dipstick before going in. Then, after it's
done, look for the scratch on the filter and check the level again. There
have been plenty of sitations where the tech 'forgot' to replace the filter
or 'forgot' to actually remove the old oil. That and recheck the dipstick
level again when you get to your next destination, just to make sure they
didn't forget to put the drain plug back tightly.
Yes, you shouldn't have to do this yourself, but you're the one that owns
the vehicle, not them. You need to watch out for it yourself, sad to say,
because the techs often times won't. Usually they're not trying to cheat
you, they're just being stupid.
-Bill Kearney
> autozone stores and amazingly, both stores were having problems with
> their computer.
> i'm hoping like hell it has nothing to do with the overfill but the
> black smoke and the fact these problems started a hundred miles after
> the oil glut leaves me with little hope.
> a simple friggin' oil change!! i feel like an idiot for not doing it
> myself and then for not draining it sooner.
> i'm gonna try another autozone today.
Do this, find out exactly how much oil is supposed to be used. Bring the
factory documentation that states it. Ask their service manager what amount
their database tells them to use. If they're different and their database
is erring on the high-side then you certainly have a reasonable case to
demand a refund, along with potentially an investigation as to what's caused
the problems you now have. Make it clear, you want the vehicle fixed and if
they won't that you'll file a claim against them for the work you'll have
done elsewhere.
What might be worse is they never bothered to actually drain the old oil and
ended up doubling the capacity. As always, when going in for an oil change
I find it's good to put a scratch of some sort on the existing oil filter
and check your oil level on the dipstick before going in. Then, after it's
done, look for the scratch on the filter and check the level again. There
have been plenty of sitations where the tech 'forgot' to replace the filter
or 'forgot' to actually remove the old oil. That and recheck the dipstick
level again when you get to your next destination, just to make sure they
didn't forget to put the drain plug back tightly.
Yes, you shouldn't have to do this yourself, but you're the one that owns
the vehicle, not them. You need to watch out for it yourself, sad to say,
because the techs often times won't. Usually they're not trying to cheat
you, they're just being stupid.
-Bill Kearney