1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
08-21-2006, 12:31 AM
#74
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
In message <gn2he29osdieufotr8h9dc81kuodcm1l2p@4ax.com>, "Casper" wrote:
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
08-21-2006, 12:31 AM
#75
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
In message <gn2he29osdieufotr8h9dc81kuodcm1l2p@4ax.com>, "Casper" wrote:
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
08-21-2006, 12:31 AM
#76
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
In message <gn2he29osdieufotr8h9dc81kuodcm1l2p@4ax.com>, "Casper" wrote:
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
08-21-2006, 12:31 AM
#77
Guest
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
In message <gn2he29osdieufotr8h9dc81kuodcm1l2p@4ax.com>, "Casper" wrote:
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
>Just to clarify things up a bit (I hope)...
>
>For the check engine light problem, the PCM (main computer). Aside
>from not running the pre-start process, it was preventing voltage from
>going to the fuel pump.
>
>A smashed connector in lift gate was replaced. The tailgate tamper
>circuit was spiked by a short to a power circuit which required the
>replacement of the theft module but the jeep would still not start
>until the replacement of the PCM.
>
>The crank position sensor (CPS) was replaced (once). I was informed it
>was found bad during the process of troubleshooting and before
>replacement of the PCM.
>
>The sparks plugs have been replaced four (4) times now in total for
>fouling. Bosch plugs were only used once and the jeep only drove about
>12-15 miles total on them before being removed. *You can smell fuel
>after several attempts (cranks) to start.
>
>The ground(s) have been checked by four (4) different mechanics and
>determined to be fine. Wires starting from battery and continuing till
>end have been checked and cleaned.
>
>The coil has been replaced when it was thought the spark voltage
>"might" have been low. No change in problem.
>
>She is still sitting in the shop with several different diagnostic
>tools wired to her looking for anything leading to the problem.
>
>If you want to know about the mechanic, check this out...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/currentprobe3.html
Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
system is a big advantage.
>
>And here is something he designed...
>http://www.currentprobe.com/
He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
one of those, and they're not $400.
Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
with no fix in sight.
Does he have a DRB?
>
>So far Jeff appears to me as a very honest guy who is a very
>knowledgeable master technician and mechanic. He has given me no
>reason to suspect otherwias and has been both helpful and diligent in
>working to resolve my jeep's problem(s).
>
>`Casper
08-21-2006, 10:17 AM
#78
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> hacked up a hairball and the stain left
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.
08-21-2006, 10:17 AM
#79
Guest
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Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> hacked up a hairball and the stain left
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.
08-21-2006, 10:17 AM
#80
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net> hacked up a hairball and the stain left
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.
behind looked like this:
>Not to take anything from your mechanic, but it looks like he's had mostly GM
>training, and probably has mostly GM experience. You may be better off with
>somebody who is experienced with the Chrysler systems. Being familiar with a
>system is a big advantage.
Already been to two different Chrysler/Jeep mechanics and they had
considerably less to offer in the way of a fix except to charge me
exorbitant fees and wanted to replace my muffler for $1600.
>He designed a current probe? Any decent automotive lab scope kit will come with
>one of those, and they're not $400.
Maybe. I do not know. But he has won several awards for his probe, so
there must be something different about it.
>Again, he may be good, but this problem has been going on for quite a while now
>with no fix in sight.
>Does he have a DRB?
Again, he has all the DRB and other diagnostic tools. He has more than
any of the Chrysler/Jeep dealerships in the area.
The repairs are per acceptance of the insurance company, so I am
restricted to who can make repairs. Also, this guy has already been
paid for some parts and must warranty his work. Especially for the PCM
he already replaced should it be defective.